Benefits and Blood Donation

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10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?

The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.

Jasandjules

69,978 posts

230 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Really?

Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...

P-Jay

10,589 posts

192 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Six Fiend said:
Mark Benson said:
superkartracer said:
Why not simply stick them in tubes and take the blood on a daily basis, Matrix style.
Benefits Battery Farms, think of what we could harvest......
Or just use prisons. The captives are there.

Clean up the prisoners, use the blood and as necessary use the lifers as organ donors.

(Personal interest in procuring lungs notwithstanding)
Sounds like China's take on it - On death row? Your stay of execution is based on your compatibility with rich American people in need or organs...

Lifers would be useless as organ donors; you can't harvest organs from people who've died of old age, especially if they lived on st food and rollies for the last few decades of them.

As for the blood donations, yeah I know of a few people I know are just professional giro cashers who seem to think they have the god given right to bang their fists on the desk of the dole office for free money, I hate them for it and would love to see them forced (under threat of removal of benefits) into labour, sweeping the roads, painting schools, litter picking ANYTHING to give them a work ethic and that sense of enjoyment you get from earning something - even if it's only a pint on a Friday - I would have no problem with them being told to report to a church hall on a Tuesday (8am of course) to give some blood - assuming it can be filtered of Benson & Hedges and Cider.

But the Benefits system seems unable, or just unwilling to tell the difference between the poor bloke who's lost his job and is desperately trying to find another, and the dosser who's learnt to play the system and is willing to accept of lifetime of living from giro to giro in a semi-stupor.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

228 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Lee_sec said:
PeanutHead said:
MGZRod said:
Blood from some on benefits?! I dare say many PHers would rather die than get muggle blood in them hehe
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Have another
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And another hehe

colonel c

7,890 posts

240 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?

The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?

Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.


JuniorD

8,634 posts

224 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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It's the next logical step, the government are already taking the piss out of us

wolves_wanderer

12,396 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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colonel c said:
10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?

The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?

Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.
I dare say but your body and the contents thereof don't belong to the state.

Jasandjules

69,978 posts

230 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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colonel c said:
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.
I give blood. I do so of my own free will.

However, there is a clear issue here and that is of the freedom of an individual to do with their body as they wish. That is something I do not believe can, or should, be interefered with.

hyperblue

2,803 posts

181 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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This is quite a mad thread really, even by PH standards. What next? Organ donation from those on benefits to keep a productive member of society alive? hehe

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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This thread. rofl Reminds me of The Island. http://www.theisland-themovie.com/

How about every person over the age of 16 without a GCSE is linked to someone with a degree who has relevant biological matches (blood type etc) and should the educated one require a spare organ, limb or blood, the uneducated one has to cough up? nuts

Regiment

2,799 posts

160 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Six Fiend said:
Or just use prisons. The captives are there.

Clean up the prisoners, use the blood and as necessary use the lifers as organ donors.

(Personal interest in procuring lungs notwithstanding)
Lol, I'd rather not get blood from prisoners, I'd be high for a week

DickHerpes

900 posts

160 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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colonel c said:
10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?

The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?

Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.
If it came down to it and there were no recriminations for doing so I daresay I'd have you killed if your organs could save my child's life, so I don't think anyone wants to live in a world based around what we'd do if the life of someone close to us depended on it...

NightRunner

12,231 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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As I have had a large op and transfusion in the past, I'm not allowed to give blood.

So how would that fit in..

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Turn the system around.

Freeze benefits at present level, then earn 'bonuses' for giving blood.

After a few years the 'bonuses' will become necessary to live then people will volunteer.

Mr Sparkle

1,921 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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voyds9 said:
Turn the system around.

Freeze benefits at present level, then earn 'bonuses' for giving blood.

After a few years the 'bonuses' will become necessary to live then people will volunteer.
Can you imagine the negative publicity of doing anything like this though, the press would have field day.

kowalski655

14,687 posts

144 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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IIRC gay men can't give blood(although I may be totally wrong on that) so it hardly seems fair that gay men could get benefit without getting pricked so to speak. Of course the workshy would soon learn to say.they swung both ways

iphonedyou

9,263 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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superkartracer said:
Unsure.

Discuss.
rofl

wildone63

994 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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So by the same token does the OP mean that i as a taxpayer and not claiming benefits should get a tax rebate if i give blood?

HeatonNorris

1,649 posts

149 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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superkartracer said:
fatboy b said:
dirty doug said:
Discuss.
Why do people put this? So annoying!
Unsure.

Discuss.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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Ladies and Gentleman, tune in to PistonHeads next week for Volume 6 of What Can We Get Those On Benefits To Do Next?