Benefits and Blood Donation
Discussion
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Six Fiend said:
Mark Benson said:
superkartracer said:
Why not simply stick them in tubes and take the blood on a daily basis, Matrix style.
Benefits Battery Farms, think of what we could harvest......Clean up the prisoners, use the blood and as necessary use the lifers as organ donors.
(Personal interest in procuring lungs notwithstanding)
Lifers would be useless as organ donors; you can't harvest organs from people who've died of old age, especially if they lived on st food and rollies for the last few decades of them.
As for the blood donations, yeah I know of a few people I know are just professional giro cashers who seem to think they have the god given right to bang their fists on the desk of the dole office for free money, I hate them for it and would love to see them forced (under threat of removal of benefits) into labour, sweeping the roads, painting schools, litter picking ANYTHING to give them a work ethic and that sense of enjoyment you get from earning something - even if it's only a pint on a Friday - I would have no problem with them being told to report to a church hall on a Tuesday (8am of course) to give some blood - assuming it can be filtered of Benson & Hedges and Cider.
But the Benefits system seems unable, or just unwilling to tell the difference between the poor bloke who's lost his job and is desperately trying to find another, and the dosser who's learnt to play the system and is willing to accept of lifetime of living from giro to giro in a semi-stupor.
10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?
Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
colonel c said:
10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?
Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
colonel c said:
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.
I give blood. I do so of my own free will. However, there is a clear issue here and that is of the freedom of an individual to do with their body as they wish. That is something I do not believe can, or should, be interefered with.
This thread. Reminds me of The Island. http://www.theisland-themovie.com/
How about every person over the age of 16 without a GCSE is linked to someone with a degree who has relevant biological matches (blood type etc) and should the educated one require a spare organ, limb or blood, the uneducated one has to cough up?
How about every person over the age of 16 without a GCSE is linked to someone with a degree who has relevant biological matches (blood type etc) and should the educated one require a spare organ, limb or blood, the uneducated one has to cough up?
colonel c said:
10 Pence Short said:
colonel c said:
Seriously. Perhaps donating blood should be run as a civic duty. Just like jury service.
Perhaps humans should retain the right to decide what happens to their own body?The concept that people should be conscripted to have resources from their own body removed is abhorrent and perverse.
Jasandjules said:
Really?
Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
Very valid viewpoints. I expect you might disagree if it was a loved one on the operating table.Perhaps people should have the right to have a say in what goes in, and comes out of, their body...
voyds9 said:
Turn the system around.
Freeze benefits at present level, then earn 'bonuses' for giving blood.
After a few years the 'bonuses' will become necessary to live then people will volunteer.
Can you imagine the negative publicity of doing anything like this though, the press would have field day.Freeze benefits at present level, then earn 'bonuses' for giving blood.
After a few years the 'bonuses' will become necessary to live then people will volunteer.
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