Get a job 'cancer victim' told

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The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Mojocvh said:
So how many/much of your limbs do you need to lose before you are now classed as disabled by the system...

...what of our soldiers at Headley Court [and afterwards once booted out of the forces] are they going to be judged the same way??....

Not so smarmy now, are we...[not you Eric, just the whole thread]
I think you should be classed as disabled once you are actually, in the truest sense of the word, disabled. A man who loses one of his legs isn't entirely disabled in my opinion. He may not be suited for the job he had before his illness but he is hardly incapable, or adequately disabled to prevent him from having any form of job.

When you say of "our soldiers" of course they wouldn't be "judged" in the same way. There is a huge difference in a soldier who has lost a limb in the line of duty and desperately wants to return to work and somebody who has lost a limb through cancer and is now struggling with a negative attitude problem. Whereas one wants to work, can not and isn't expected to the other doesn't want to work, can and doesn't think they should. Big differences.

And I'm still just as smarmy as I have always been.

XCP

16,950 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Well I would say in law he is disabled and afforded the "protection" such as it is from the Equality Act.. But as for disability benefits I have no idea.
Being disabled is one thing. Being unable to do any work what soever ( which is what this chap is claiming it seems), is quite another matter.

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Mojocvh said:
So how many/much of your limbs do you need to lose before you are now classed as disabled by the system...

...what of our soldiers at Headley Court [and afterwards once booted out of the forces] are they going to be judged the same way??....

Not so smarmy now, are we...
He's still classed as disabled. Just no longer classed as "not able to work". Because he can still work.

Or are you saying that the disabled can't work? wink

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Mojocvh said:
So how many/much of your limbs do you need to lose before you are now classed as disabled by the system...

...what of our soldiers at Headley Court [and afterwards once booted out of the forces] are they going to be judged the same way??....

Not so smarmy now, are we...[not you Eric, just the whole thread]
Do you really hold disabled soldiers in such low esteem to think they would rather claim they can't work on the basis of being restricted to wheelchair mobility?

The ones I have spoken to certainly don't have that opinion.

bitchstewie

51,603 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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We have a very strange system don't we?

If someone refuses to offer you a job because you're disabled you're being discriminated against.

If you're disabled and judged able to work so told to look for a job, you're also being discriminated against.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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When you say of "our soldiers" of course they wouldn't be "judged" in the same way. There is a huge difference in a soldier who has lost a limb in the line of duty and desperately wants to return to work and somebody who has lost a limb through cancer and is now struggling with a negative attitude problem.


Should the state only support limbless ex soldiers? is that what you are saying? [Actually I quite like that sentiment, I personally believe there isn't enough being done for all types of injuries and not just the "high profile" ones but that's another argument] but why should the state differentiate over two men with the same level of injury/disability purely because of their histories.

It seems quite unfair.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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DSM2 said:
Jasandjules said:
If he can find someone who will employ a disabled person that is. Let's face, we are not awash with jobs in the UK right now let alone job where a company will have to make changes to accomodate him!?!?
I think there are many jobs, but a lot of unemployable people?
You're right in one way and wrong in many others.

Oakey

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27,597 posts

217 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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According to the comments his leg was amputated 4 years ago and it's only in the last 6 months he's had issues with his prosthetic leg. I'll hazard a guess that in those previous four years he's done nothing to further his situation.

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Perhaps we ought to send the para Olympians round to show him what can be done.

rohrl

8,751 posts

146 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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If he hooks up with another unidexter on Gumtree he could be paying half-price on his shoes as well. Didn't mention that nice little earner during his assessment I'll bet. Typical Gordon Brown.

Negative Creep

25,007 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Oakey said:
According to the comments his leg was amputated 4 years ago and it's only in the last 6 months he's had issues with his prosthetic leg. I'll hazard a guess that in those previous four years he's done nothing to further his situation.
Doubtless that had some bearing on the decision. I have a friend with one leg, lost due to cancer. He is currently working as a car audio fitter and when I first met him he worked for Halfords, even carrying and fitting batteries without fuss.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

223 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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I work with a bloke who's lost the bottom half of his left leg.

If no one told you, you wouldn't know. He just gets on with it.

When it was first cut off, he came back to work in a wheelchair for a few weeks, then moved to his prosthetic limb and limped a bit.

Now, he does the same as anyone else. (a lot more than some)

Eric Mc

122,112 posts

266 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Lacking limbs need not hold you back



hidetheelephants

24,694 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I was nearly going to say that he was a walking cliché, but that would be in bad taste.
hehe
rohrl said:
If he hooks up with another unidexter on Gumtree he could be paying half-price on his shoes as well. Didn't mention that nice little earner during his assessment I'll bet. Typical Gordon Brown.
rofl

When's the next bus to Hades?

pmjg66

2,708 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Worked with a lad that lost half a leg,was funny watching him fall on his arse a few times a day,but still was a good car mechanic and worked quickly smile

crofty1984

15,895 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Mojocvh said:
So how many/much of your limbs do you need to lose before you are now classed as disabled by the system...

...what of our soldiers at Headley Court [and afterwards once booted out of the forces] are they going to be judged the same way??....

Not so smarmy now, are we...[not you Eric, just the whole thread]
Being disabled and not being able to work are not exactly mutualy exclusive. OK, it'll affect his ability to do SOME jobs, but there are plenty of others out there.

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I was nearly going to say that he was a walking cliché, but that would be in bad taste.
rofl

Eric! That's not like you to say that kind of thing.

Biker's Nemesis

38,770 posts

209 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Lacking limbs need not hold you back


Indeed.






vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Indeed.
Nice boxers.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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BN, WTF has any of that got to do with getting a job you're not qualified for?