Police in search for missing 5 year old

[Grenoble]

Would he get segregated/protected wing status in prison to protect his safety?

[Davel]

I truly hope not........

[longblackcoat]

Grenoble said:

Would he get segregated/protected wing status in prison to protect his safety?

Yep, Rule 45 if he requests it. And unless he has a death wish, it'll be the first thing he asks for.

[Rocksteadyeddie]

I wonder if we'll get an appeal on the severity of the sentence. The only recent case that I can recall that is similar is Ian Huntley. He got life with a minimum of 40 yrs. Someone who knows better will be along in a moment, but whole life tariffs are not that common I don't believe. The last thing this girls poor parents need now is an appeal.

[ZR1cliff]

nickbee said:

TheSnitch said:

The judge has imposed a whole life tariff.

Good. I won't be terribly upset if that whole life doesn't last for long.

On the contrary I hope that he lives to an old age. I hope that his every single day from now on is a slow one filled with fear and that every night is filled with regret and loneliness. I hope the miserable piece of st ends up wishing he were dead, and I hope it's a long, long time before that wish is granted.

Couldn't have put it better. Add in other inmates spicing his food up and a few other niceities and I hope he lives to a ripe old age.

[Willy Nilly]

Killing her is one thing, but the fact that her parents don't have a body to bury makes it far worse.

Hopefully he will live a long and miserable life in jail.

[rover 623gsi]

RIP to April. Condolences to her family - I doubt very much they will ever recover.

Hopefully prison will be a miserable existence for Bridger and if there is a hell I hope he rots in it for eternity.

[Aretnap]

Rocksteadyeddie said:

I wonder if we'll get an appeal on the severity of the sentence. The only recent case that I can recall that is similar is Ian Huntley. He got life with a minimum of 40 yrs. Someone who knows better will be along in a moment, but whole life tariffs are not that common I don't believe. The last thing this girls poor parents need now is an appeal.

Can't see what grounds he'd have for an appeal - the law is pretty clear. The Criminal Justice Act 2003 says the appropriate starting point for "the murder of a child if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation" is a whole life order. With Bridger's barrister unable to offer any mitigation beyond "he's not a repeat offender" there would be no reason to go below the starting point.

The Huntley case was before the CJA 2003 came into force.

[Welshbeef]

This monster brutally taking the life of a child in a macabre and very likely sexual way and not being able to come clean about what he did.

It really does challenge your belief in humanity that we can bring up individuals like him, I mean you have to wonder why God would let anything like this happen? What caused him to do such a thing clearly noone would be brought up in such a way so is he mentally disturbed (if so ad given the significant number of vile incidents over the last few years by mentally disturbed individuals) how can we stop it?

I read that there is a number of violent incidents a record on him so why wasn't he on the watch list.


Anyway this monster can rot in hell he deserves nothing but pain suffering

[Grenoble]

Welshbeef said:

I read that there is a number of violent incidents a record on him so why wasn't he on the watch list.

I take your sentiment, but what watch list?

He didn't have custody of any kids as I understand it. He had served his previous punishments. Even if he had been a high risk individual, what do you do before a crime is committed?

It was the act of a monster. Not sure what we as a society could have done to prevent it?

[rohrl]

Welshbeef said:

This monster brutally taking the life of a child in a macabre and very likely sexual way and not being able to come clean about what he did.

It really does challenge your belief in humanity that we can bring up individuals like him, I mean you have to wonder why God would let anything like this happen? What caused him to do such a thing clearly noone would be brought up in such a way so is he mentally disturbed (if so ad given the significant number of vile incidents over the last few years by mentally disturbed individuals) how can we stop it?

I read that there is a number of violent incidents a record on him so why wasn't he on the watch list.

Anyway this monster can rot in hell he deserves nothing but pain suffering

On the what now? What is this watch list which you imagine recipients of a handful of minor convictions inhabit?

Bridger is clearly a very unpleasant man and has been found guilty of a vile crime. The responsibility is his. Not her parents for allowing her outside and not anyone elses for not predicting that a father of six with no previous related convictions would do such a thing.

[oobster]

I wonder if this was his first murder, or if police will now start (or have already started) examining missing persons cases that might be associated with Bridger.

Poor wee April, cracks me up when I think what she probably went through and what her family are still going through

Hopefully the piece of scum doesn't prolong the family's agony by appealing his conviction.

[The Hypno-Toad]

First Phillpot, then Hazell, now this bloke.

WTF is going on in this country? Where is all this sub-human scumbag filth coming from?

[Grenoble]

I fear it has always happened, just better reported and traced these days.

Horrible people have always existed.

[TheSnitch]

nickbee said:

TheSnitch said:

The judge has imposed a whole life tariff.

Good. I won't be terribly upset if that whole life doesn't last for long.

On the contrary I hope that he lives to an old age. I hope that his every single day from now on is a slow one filled with fear and that every night is filled with regret and loneliness. I hope the miserable piece of st ends up wishing he were dead, and I hope it's a long, long time before that wish is granted.

Yes, on reflection I could go for that too.

[Welshbeef]

I can understand certain types of crime or what might drive someone.

Say robbery yes I can see why if you pull it off you could be rich
Murder - well I guess there could be scenarios whereby an individual might be driven to do it
Battery - yes understand that too or certain situation when someone may push ahead and act accordingly
Rape - I dont understand, pay for a hooker instead.

However what this scum has done I cannot see any reasons at all. Retaliation - she was a child what could a child ever do to warrant any harm? I don't get the sexual thing either not just this scum but all nonces what on earth is the appeal I just cannot comprehend how anyone would view a child as sexual just what is the appeal?

[carinaman]

Grenoble said:

I fear it has always happened, just better reported and traced these days.

Horrible people have always existed.

That was what someone on Radio 4's PM said. He gave an example of when he was a Reporter and a Councillor was in court for kiddie molesting in the 70s or 80s. His Editor said 'Paedophilia? Our readers don't want to know about that.'

They discussed whether it reflects that society is less tolerant of violence as a whole but the obvious thought, and as probably discussed, that there's a certain market for such stories now.


What is upsetting is that he attended a PTA evening earlier before snatching April. That's a disturbing thought. It gives credence to those that don't allow or carefully control parents taking photos of Nativity Plays, Sports Days and around Swimming Pools?

Killing time I've been known to loiter around cars in car parks because I like cars. Someone can't hang around waiting for people in shops by looking at cars in the car park outside without having some nefarious intent, just as some can't be around children without some ulterior motive?

[otolith]

One should be thankful not to understand, I think.

[Welshbeef]

otolith said:

One should be thankful not to understand, I think.

True. Though if we could understand then there may be a way to stop or reduce the incidents?


I'd really like to hear his reason for why - firstly is why a very young girl looking for his jollies instead of a consenting adult ? Secondly once he had had jollies why at that point did he need to end her life, why not take her to te hospital (and quickly leave the country - if avoiding capture was his aim) and finally once caught with all the evidence against you why keep fighting it instead put your hands up admit it plead guilty and maybe the sentence will be less - or at least that would give some comfort to the parents to hear the whole story and know where she is (Im guessing that is all that they would want to know rather than never knowing)

I'd also want his family to give interviews to the press they might be totally divorced from him but an insight into his wretched life may help understand what caused the trigger for him to commit the crimes.

[carinaman]

What is also worrying is the role pornography played.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10294764.Mother_of_...disappointedin_law_changes_ten_years_after_her_death/

I'm not sure she has a point there, he was convicted for killing of Joanna Yeates without that evidence.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Leicester-ma...

http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/929872...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/domestic-viol...

Didn't that Shane Jenkin person watch a film before gouging Tina Nash's eyes out?




Some people are so easily influenced by what they watch?

Or they seek out what floats their boat?

Does Top Gear influence the way I drive?

My Top Gear viewing confims my dyed in the wool boy racer tendencies?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3201863/Exe...

Some people are taken in by propaganda and pro-jihad videos?



There does need to be some control on pro-Jihadi hatred videos and material just as there is for extreme and child pornography?

Edited by carinaman on Friday 31st May 00:28