Police in search for missing 5 year old

[bexVN]

Just because you don't have kids, doesn't mean you can't empathise in these situations. I admit my feelings on such cases have changed since having our boy but that did not mean I didn't feel for the families or feel upset when thinking what the victims have gone through before their death (thinking Jamie Bulger.)

[z4chris99]

bexVN said:

Just because you don't have kids, doesn't mean you can't empathise in these situations. I admit my feelings on such cases have changed since having our boy but that did not mean I didn't feel for the families or feel upset when thinking what the victims have gone through before their death (thinking Jamie Bulger.)

I feel for the family, it's st what happened, some person(s) did a terrible thing and will be duly punished. But nothing will bring their kid back so not much they can do. I didn't know them, just because they are English and all over the news doesn't mean I have to get upset about it.

Life's st, be thankful we have a stable government, relatively safe environment and that such things are rare. Worse st goes on every hour in the Middle East / Africa and doesn't have the whole of the UK on a mass witch hunt.

[don'tbesilly]

rich1231 said:

Was that supposed to be funny or an insult?

The sad thing is, a little girl has almost certainly lost her life. PH covers itself in glory with many of the weirdos turning up on a thread to speculate on how and why it was done with the most ludicrous ideas. Of course those that deny they are speculating whilst offering scenarios are excluded, righto.

It could be seen as being funny, or as insulting as your comment

rich1231 said:

I can't reply to all the idiots, I don't have the time.

It is very,very sad that young April's life has probably been taken,but the very nature of many forums is for people to speculate about the tragic story and how it's unfolded.

Have you complained to the PCC?
The press are just as guilty of speculation, in much the same way as posters on PH have been (if guilt is the right word),just as others have been on countless other forums.

[Rollcage]

The huge majority of people speculate, to a greater or lesser degree - just not everybody types or vocalises their thoughts!

How many posters have thought "I wonder why he did it" ? I would wager the answer is a good many, but most will keep their thoughts to themselves, for whatever reason. It's curiosity, a part of human nature - and without curiosity we'd all still be living in caves.

Having said that, some of the stuff spouted here has been breathtaking - but it won't escape the bullst police for long!

[Lost_BMW]

z4chris99 said:

blindswelledrat said:

We both know that isn't true, but either way I am not having an idle point-scoring session.
You are likening idle specualtion about the killing/disposal of a child to specualting about extras on an Aston Martin.
I am just saying that it really isn't. Your outlook is not normal no matter how many times you say other wise.
Normal people hear about that and give thier kids a bigger hug in the evening, and follow with interest waiting for facts. Inventing stuff for idle conversation is ghoulish

I dont have kids and so my feelings towards all this dark st is rather skewed.. but in cases like this, and others, or where young people die (as happened to a friend not long ago), or infact when anything dark happenes, i really dont get involved in the emotions etc.. my outlook is whats done is done.. no amount of crying, remorse, witch hunts etc are going to bring her back, so lets get over it and have a good trial to follow as everyone loves a good murder case.

Sorry, I called you a prat before I realised that you are just plain weird - 'probably can't help your deep seated innate unpleasantness.

[Jaldi]

z4chris99 said:

I feel for the family, it's st what happened, some person(s) did a terrible thing and will be duly punished. But nothing will bring their kid back so not much they can do. I didn't know them, just because they are English and all over the news doesn't mean I have to get upset about it.

Welsh.



I don't know about everyone else, but I'm following this investigation because it's an interesting unsolved case. I'm not at all emotionally attached, regardless of the fact that I'm a father - but I know some of the bleeding-heart proud parents on here might find that hard to understand.
This case doesn't interest me just because a child is involved, I would still be interested if an adult were the victim.
I'm not really sure what problem some people have with folks speculating what might have happened. OK, so maybe it's not in the best taste..... welcome to the internet!

[Digga]

I have to say, part of what has made the case so compelling has been the huge sense of community and dignity that comes across in nearly ever report from the town. I fail to see how people are unmoved by the events.

[Apache]

Digga said:

I have to say, part of what has made the case so compelling has been the huge sense of community and dignity that comes across in nearly ever report from the town. I fail to see how people are unmoved by the events.

A good point well made

[southendpier]

Digga said:

All good points.

My assumption (earlier in thread) was that it'd be out of the estuary by now, but clearly local knowledge is best and, as yet, they are not using the coastguards to search but concentrating on the river/esturary area. I guess times will tell - and may well prove my initial assumption incorrect.

My understanding is that the river is tidal, ie water will flow back and forth.There are also breaks and barriers in the flow. i imagine the locals will be using their knowledge and judgement of the area.

IF the body was washed to sea then there will be little point in searching for it out there.

Grisly stuff.

[rover 623gsi]

it is indeed grisly - but some people on here don't think you should speculate about such things

[Disastrous]

rover 623gsi said:

it is indeed grisly - but some people on here don't think you should speculate about such things

Well, it's relatively pointless. Unless you think the head honcho in charge of the investigation pops on here first thing to get some fresh insight?

"Hang on lads, it's tidal! We might be wasting our time here...etc"

Just seems a bit ghoulish.

[rover 623gsi]

I would argue that the vast majority of posts on this forum are pointless - most of mine certainly are.

[dirty boy]

I would never begrudge anyone speculating wildly and voicing various theories.

Without them, i'd have nothing to read.

[z4chris99]

blindswelledrat said:

i said said:

so lets get over it and have a good trial to follow as everyone loves a good murder case.

Sorry, I called you a prat before I realised that you are just plain weird - 'probably can't help your deep seated innate unpleasantness.

Ive been toying with writing a long reply but i cant be arsed.

It is in no way unpleaseent to have no emotional attachment to a family i have never met. I sympathise with their situation, but worse things happen every day. I, AND the public, find cases such as this one interesting, if they didnt the papers wouldnt devote so many inches to them and the speculation that goes with it. Internet forums wouldnt be talking about it etc etc etc

its a classic "who dun it" story, with a twist of no body, it has been popular since the dawn of time.

[PeanutHead]

z4chris99 said:

Ive been toying with writing a long reply but i cant be arsed.

It is in no way unpleaseent to have no emotional attachment to a family i have never met. I sympathise with their situation, but worse things happen every day. I, AND the public, find cases such as this one interesting, if they didnt the papers wouldnt devote so many inches to them and the speculation that goes with it. Internet forums wouldnt be talking about it etc etc etc

its a classic "who dun it" story, with a twist of no body, it has been popular since the dawn of time.

I agree, the whole case is streaming with the word WHY to the many unanswered Questions and that alone sends folk into a frenzy of speculation.
I guess it's the same for the police before they start finding out answers to questions when solving crimes, "no stone left unturned" sort of thing.

[Petemate]

Apache said:

A good point well made

+1

[Petemate]

PeanutHead said:

I agree, the whole case is streaming with the word WHY

For me, this is the thing that I am at odds with, given that the accused has kids of his own and that the girl has also played with them. I cannot understand what motive has brought about this situation. It will all come out eventually, but for the family it must be devastating and has brought a lump to my throat on many occasions.
RIP little April - I very much doubt that the poor girl is still alive.

[blindswelledrat]

z4chris99 said:

blindswelledrat said:

i said said:

so lets get over it and have a good trial to follow as everyone loves a good murder case.

Sorry, I called you a prat before I realised that you are just plain weird - 'probably can't help your deep seated innate unpleasantness.

Ive been toying with writing a long reply but i cant be arsed.

It is in no way unpleaseent to have no emotional attachment to a family i have never met. I sympathise with their situation, but worse things happen every day. I, AND the public, find cases such as this one interesting, if they didnt the papers wouldnt devote so many inches to them and the speculation that goes with it. Internet forums wouldnt be talking about it etc etc etc

its a classic "who dun it" story, with a twist of no body, it has been popular since the dawn of time.

I didnt say that.

[prand]

z4chris99 said:

I sympathise with their situation, but worse things happen every day.

That's not a particularly nice thing to say. I really couldn't think of much worse happenning to anyone. And that isn't a request for examples either.

I would like to find out what happens now out of sympathy with the family and friends who must be out of their minds with worry and grief. To an extent I am sharing it, and I would hazard a guess that a fair few like me feel the same way.

Watching things develop like the latest crime DVD seems wrong to me.

[dirty boy]

blindswelledrat said:

I didnt say that.

Yeah...but I bet you thought it