Police in search for missing 5 year old

Police in search for missing 5 year old

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AB

16,998 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Hooli said:
Well that's one way of describing it, but you've got who stalked who around a forum the wrong way around.

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Liaise with each other, book a room, get it out of your system.

Come back and be sensible.

clockworks

5,387 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Twincam16 said:
Lying to the police under caution counts as 'perverting the course of justice' though, so if he said anything while being questioned that turned out to be deliberately false, that'd be perversion. Nothing more complex than that.
BBC news channel were reporting it today as relating to disposal of the body, rather than lying under caution. No idea if it's true or not.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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AB said:
Hooli said:
Well that's one way of describing it, but you've got who stalked who around a forum the wrong way around.

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www.lastminute.com

Liaise with each other, book a room, get it out of your system.

Come back and be sensible.
"Liaise with" may get you around the profanity filters, but you may as well just have said "shag"

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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So, turns out Bridger is kind of related to April Jones. In a throughly chavvy underclass modern way.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/96002...

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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He has today pled "Not Guilty" to her abduction and murder, but his lawyer says he is "probably responsible for her death.

Interesting.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Rollcage said:
He has today pled "Not Guilty" to her abduction and murder, but his lawyer says he is "probably responsible for her death.

Interesting.
Interesting.
I reckon he will have a really st story lined up. "Oh, I took her fishing and she fell in and drowned" blah blah blah.

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

207 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?

Grenoble

50,689 posts

156 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Given what his lawyer has said it sounds like there is going to be an interesting set of defence information.

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Interesting.
I reckon he will have a really st story lined up. "Oh, I took her fishing and she fell in and drowned" blah blah blah.
After seeing the plea, this is what I think too. Up to the Police now to prove otherwise, so I really hope some truth can be found.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Pure guess, but assuming it wasn't normal for him to pick her up off the street and take her somewhere, combined with her ending up dead, I would suggest that no matter what story he makes up there is little doubt there.

MX7

7,902 posts

175 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/4191321.stm

It's quite rare, but not impossible.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Pure guess, but assuming it wasn't normal for him to pick her up off the street and take her somewhere, combined with her ending up dead, I would suggest that no matter what story he makes up there is little doubt there.
Shame he isn't a doctor on holiday with a bunch of mates.

Amateurish

7,758 posts

223 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Pure guess, but assuming it wasn't normal for him to pick her up off the street and take her somewhere, combined with her ending up dead, I would suggest that no matter what story he makes up there is little doubt there.
Murder isn't the only type of homicide...

otolith

56,336 posts

205 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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hornetrider said:
So, turns out Bridger is kind of related to April Jones. In a throughly chavvy underclass modern way.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/96002...
Machynlleth has a population of a couple of thousand people and is located in a fairly sparsely populated rural area - I should think everybody is kind of related to some extent.


tim0409

4,455 posts

160 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
You don't need a body for a murder conviction, just enough circumstantial evidence to piece together. This was the case with a recent trial in Edinburgh (Suzanne Pilley went missing in city centre and the body has never been recovered. I went to the trial due to part of my job and it was very interesting).

The other recent case was the murder of Arlene Fraser were her husband Nat Fraser was recently convicted and the body has never found.

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

207 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Pure guess, but assuming it wasn't normal for him to pick her up off the street and take her somewhere, combined with her ending up dead, I would suggest that no matter what story he makes up there is little doubt there.
I'm not well read on this but he could say he dropped her off somewhere and didnt see her after or even deny picking her up in the first place if the only witnesses are kids who gave conflicting statements

TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

207 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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tim0409 said:
You don't need a body for a murder conviction, just enough circumstantial evidence to piece together. This was the case with a recent trial in Edinburgh (Suzanne Pilley went missing in city centre and the body has never been recovered. I went to the trial due to part of my job and it was very interesting).

The other recent case was the murder of Arlene Fraser were her husband Nat Fraser was recently convicted and the body has never found.
well you learn something every day. Thanks for clearing that up for me

oobster

7,108 posts

212 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I hope he is found guilty of murder, I can only assume he hasn't given up the location of the body because he is afraid post mortem results would show up non-accidental death.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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TobyLaRohne said:
blindswelledrat said:
TobyLaRohne said:
Without a body or witnesses how can they find him guilty? Isn't it supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt?
Pure guess, but assuming it wasn't normal for him to pick her up off the street and take her somewhere, combined with her ending up dead, I would suggest that no matter what story he makes up there is little doubt there.
I'm not well read on this but he could say he dropped her off somewhere and didnt see her after or even deny picking her up in the first place if the only witnesses are kids who gave conflicting statements
Im just assuming that if his Lawyer acknowledged he was probably responsible for the death, then its unlikely there will be outright denial

ofcorsa

3,527 posts

244 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Scratch that, just seen he is responsible for her death but not murder. Sounds like semantics. String him up

Edited by ofcorsa on Monday 14th January 15:05