Now they want to erase gender altogether

[mat777]

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10007505.Is_it_the_...

I've seen it all now. Do these fking poltically correct leeches not have anything better to spend our money on implementing?

[CommanderJameson]

Whilst I don't particularly agree with this, I do think that there's a case for debating the whole "names" thing.

There are folk who have changed their name to a single word. A bit nutty, true, but so what? The world's better for having a few eccentrics in it. The most famous person is probably Teller, from Penn & Teller. Oh, and Prince - but he's not that famous any more, and I don't like his weedy, squeaky tunes, so he doesn't count.

But they have a hell of a time with systems that demand at least a forename and a surname. "Computer says no", writ large.

They should have one field, of arbitrary length, called "Name", and in it, I should be able to put either "Sir Lionel Calcium Knight Commander Of The Bar Jameson Esquire plc", or "pob", with equal aplomb.

[Marf]

mat777 said:

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10007505.Is_it_the_...

I've seen it all now. Do these fking poltically correct leeches not have anything better to spend our money on implementing?

Your money? Do you pay council tax in Brighton and Hove? Seems a strange thing to do if you split your time between Cheshire and Bristol

[Marf]

CommanderJameson said:

"pob"

Fetching pullover you have on CJ

[gtdc]

Thanks for posting that. i have learned a splendid new word; genderqueer.

[MacW]

I totally agree that the world is a better place with a subset of eccentrics.

However that doesn't mean we have to let the lunatics run the asylum.

[Pothole]

CommanderJameson said:

Whilst I don't particularly agree with this, I do think that there's a case for debating the whole "names" thing.

There are folk who have changed their name to a single word. A bit nutty, true, but so what? The world's better for having a few eccentrics in it. The most famous person is probably Teller, from Penn & Teller. Oh, and Prince - but he's not that famous any more, and I don't like his weedy, squeaky tunes, so he doesn't count.

But they have a hell of a time with systems that demand at least a forename and a surname. "Computer says no", writ large.

They should have one field, of arbitrary length, called "Name", and in it, I should be able to put either "Sir Lionel Calcium Knight Commander Of The Bar Jameson Esquire plc", or "pob", with equal aplomb.

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

[mat777]

MacW said:

I totally agree that the world is a better place with a subset of eccentrics.

However that doesn't mean we have to let the lunatics run the asylum.

This is what I was getting at

[CommanderJameson]

Pothole said:

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

I believe she's "Madonna Louise Ciccone", legally speaking. What with that being her name, an' that.

[CommanderJameson]

mat777 said:

MacW said:

I totally agree that the world is a better place with a subset of eccentrics.

However that doesn't mean we have to let the lunatics run the asylum.

This is what I was getting at

Storm in a teacup. All they have to do is make the computer systems not care whether there's anything in the box - or just go over to my "Big long field in which you put anything you like" system.

That way you can still be Mrs Matt777 if you want, and GQ folk can be whatever they like.

Honestly, both sides of this debate are thinking firmly within the box.

[tubbystu]

doogz said:

"Steph Scott, an LGBT activist who defines herself as ‘genderqueer’ – neither male nor female – described the titles Mr and Mrs as “extremely outdated”.

She said: “Being called Mr or Mrs forces me to choose between genders."

Isn't this what Ms was introduced for ?

doogz said:

Well, firstly, it says "She", and secondly, you're not forced to choose between genders. You are (for 99.9% of the population) born with one. It's not a choice, it's to do with what reproductive organs you were both with.

Or whatever is currently "fitted", if a sexchange op has taken place maybe ?

[ewenm]

A large public sector payroll system I've worked on has three gender options: Male, Female and Unknown. It's not a tricky problem to solve...

[King Herald]

mat777 said:

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10007505.Is_it_the_...

I've seen it all now. Do these fking politically correct leeches not have anything better to spend our money on implementing?

While they might have 'a point' I'm sure there are far more important things in the Brighton and Hove area to focus on than changing the well-established norm just for the same of a minimal handful of wierdos.



I might take their lead and start a similarly useful campaign, to fight for the rights for women to have stand-up urinals, just like men do.

Who the hell decided that woman are not allowed urinals in their bathrooms??? Who decided they cannot stand shoulder to shoulder enjoying pub banter, but have to be segregated, like cattle, into cramped and claustrophobic cubicals??? I demand equality!

[Marf]

King Herald said:

I might take their lead and start a similarly useful campaign, to fight for the rights for women to have stand-up urinals, just like men do.

Who the hell decided that woman are not allowed urinals in their bathrooms??? Who decided they cannot stand shoulder to shoulder enjoying pub banter, but have to be segregated, like cattle, into cramped and claustrophobic cubicals??? I demand equality!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=she+wee&oq=she+wee&sugexp=chrome,mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[hyperblue]

I find it really hard to get wound up by this. Does it even matter?

[Marf]

hyperblue said:

I find it really hard to get wound up by this. Does it even matter?

Yes! The OP's money is apparently being wasted, despite him not living in brighton and hove

[Pothole]

CommanderJameson said:

Pothole said:

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

I believe she's "Madonna Louise Ciccone", legally speaking. What with that being her name, an' that.

Yes, I clearly know that, look:

I said:

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

[CommanderJameson]

Pothole said:

CommanderJameson said:

Pothole said:

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

I believe she's "Madonna Louise Ciccone", legally speaking. What with that being her name, an' that.

Yes, I clearly know that, look:

I said:

You must mean legally changed their name, I guess, as Madonna would no doubt be recognisable to far more people than Teller.

But "Madonna" (on its own) is just her stage name. She's still Ms Ciccone, because she hasn't actually changed her name - she was born Madonna Louise Ciccone

[vixen1700]

CommanderJameson said:

That way you can still be Mrs Matt777 if you want, and GQ folk can be whatever they like.

Didn't think you were allowed to be named with numbers.

Also is Name allowed as a name?

[ZOLLAR]

CommanderJameson said:

Whilst I don't particularly agree with this, I do think that there's a case for debating the whole "names" thing.

There are folk who have changed their name to a single word. A bit nutty, true, but so what? The world's better for having a few eccentrics in it. The most famous person is probably Teller, from Penn & Teller. Oh, and Prince - but he's not that famous any more, and I don't like his weedy, squeaky tunes, so he doesn't count.

But they have a hell of a time with systems that demand at least a forename and a surname. "Computer says no", writ large.

They should have one field, of arbitrary length, called "Name", and in it, I should be able to put either "Sir Lionel Calcium Knight Commander Of The Bar Jameson Esquire plc", or "pob", with equal aplomb.

My full name starts with a "Lord" and finishes with some roman numerals, so I agree with you there