another abuse gang

[Alpinestars]

austinsmirk said:

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/174643...


and look what their family members were shouting from the galleries.

Absolute scumbags. Showing no remorse for heinous crimes means throwing away the keys in my view.

[j_4m]

Europa1 said:

Where does Kieran Harris get a mention in the Koran?

Right next to "leave Pakistan, resettle in Yorkshire, be general scum, rape lots of underage natives".

Alpinestars said:

Absolute scumbags. Showing no remorse for heinous crimes means throwing away the keys in my view.

Pertinent article. Maybe we should have an exchange program with American prisons?

[alfaman]

One type of gang abuse not getting much of any press coverage is when large gangs of Muslim youths ambush ppl who happen to walk into ‘their area’.

... happened to my nephew and 3 friends a couple of weeks ago in Shadwell while walking between train stations.

10 locals ambushed the 4 of them. Put them in hospital overnight

Told them to “stay the fk away from our mosque”

Police and paramedics attended

Police said it was very common and that no follow up action would be taken as ‘no evidence’ (despite lots of CCTV)

Police also said if 10 whites attacked 4 Asians it would have been considered a serious incident. But not in this case.

... perhaps the Police just aren’t that bothered (?)

Fortunately the 4 of them were not stabbed and didn’t have any major long term injuries

Note : this type of behaviour would not be tolerated where I have lived in the Middle East (Bahrain ) or Asian( Singapore ).... not sure why it is tolerated in the UK

Edited by alfaman on Thursday 28th February 11:00

[BlackLabel]

Lemming Train said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

The regularilty with which it goes on now is reaching the point where it's not even newsworthy anymore. Another 9 Muslim names in the list though to further debunk the claims from certain quarters that they are just "isolated cases" and "the majority of Muslims are law-abiding" .

There are almost 3 million Muslims in the U.K. - and sure those from a Muslim or Pakistani background are overrepresented in these crimes but are you seriously suggesting that the majority aren’t law-abiding?

[chrispmartha]

Lemming Train said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

The regularilty with which it goes on now is reaching the point where it's not even newsworthy anymore. Another 9 Muslim names in the list though to further debunk the claims from certain quarters that they are just "isolated cases" and "the majority of Muslims are law-abiding" .

You think the marojity of muslims in Britain are criminals?

[j_4m]

BlackLabel said:

There are almost 3 million Muslims in the U.K. - and sure those from a Muslim or Pakistani background are overrepresented in these crimes but are you seriously suggesting that the majority aren’t law-abiding?

Are you suggesting that there is not an endemic problem with sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence within Pakistani culture? There are lots of people who would disagree with you; Human Rights Watch, the UN, Women Against Rape, the list goes on.

[chrispmartha]

j_4m said:

BlackLabel said:

There are almost 3 million Muslims in the U.K. - and sure those from a Muslim or Pakistani background are overrepresented in these crimes but are you seriously suggesting that the majority aren’t law-abiding?

Are you suggesting that there is not an endemic problem with sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence within Pakistani culture? There are lots of people who would disagree with you; Human Rights Watch, the UN, Women Against Rape, the list goes on.

Stawman, do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

[j_4m]

chrispmartha said:

j_4m said:

BlackLabel said:

There are almost 3 million Muslims in the U.K. - and sure those from a Muslim or Pakistani background are overrepresented in these crimes but are you seriously suggesting that the majority aren’t law-abiding?

Are you suggesting that there is not an endemic problem with sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence within Pakistani culture? There are lots of people who would disagree with you; Human Rights Watch, the UN, Women Against Rape, the list goes on.

Stawman, do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

How is it a strawman? I'm not misrepresenting anything, Pakistan has a massive problem with rape and sexual abuse that has been documented by a lot of NGOs. Do we think that this aspect of Pakistani culture evaporates when they leave their country?

And no, I do not think that the majority of muslims in Britain are criminals, but I do know that the South Asian population is over-represented in crime.

[chrispmartha]

j_4m said:

chrispmartha said:

j_4m said:

BlackLabel said:

There are almost 3 million Muslims in the U.K. - and sure those from a Muslim or Pakistani background are overrepresented in these crimes but are you seriously suggesting that the majority aren’t law-abiding?

Are you suggesting that there is not an endemic problem with sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence within Pakistani culture? There are lots of people who would disagree with you; Human Rights Watch, the UN, Women Against Rape, the list goes on.

Stawman, do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

How is it a strawman? I'm not misrepresenting anything, Pakistan has a massive problem with rape and sexual abuse that has been documented by a lot of NGOs. Do we think that this aspect of Pakistani culture evaporates when they leave their country?

And no, I do not think that the majority of muslims in Britain are criminals, but I do know that the South Asian population is over-represented in crime.

It’s a Strawman because the post was refuting the claim that the majority of muslims are criminal which was inferred in a previous post.

There is obviously an issue within certain sections of the muslim and Pakistani community, but is not a majority of those communities

[Countdown]

austinsmirk said:

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/174643...


and look what their family members were shouting from the galleries.

What a bunch of absolute shameless scum.

[Alpinestars]

j_4m said:

Are you suggesting that there is not an endemic problem with sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence within Pakistani culture? There are lots of people who would disagree with you; Human Rights Watch, the UN, Women Against Rape, the list goes on.

Not all this again. Which returning poster are you?

Who commits most rapes in the U.K.?
Which countries are at the top of child sexual abuse?
The perpetrators you refer to are largely British.

Etc etc.

[Lemming Train]

chrispmartha said:

There is obviously an issue within certain sections of the muslim and Pakistani community, but is not a majority of those communities

Yes - just "isolated cases" right? The same "isolated cases" where there's a new "isolated case" in the press somewhere in the country every few days, each one with another half dozen to a dozen Muslims named and pictured for raping and abusing young girls barely into their teens. And these are only the "isolated cases" where they've fked up and been found out so realistically not even scratching the surface of how rife this actually is in the Muslim community.

[chrispmartha]

Lemming Train said:

chrispmartha said:

There is obviously an issue within certain sections of the muslim and Pakistani community, but is not a majority of those communities

Yes - just "isolated cases" right? The same "isolated cases" where there's a new "isolated case" in the press somewhere in the country every few days, each one with another half dozen to a dozen Muslims named and pictured for raping and abusing young girls barely into their teens. And these are only the "isolated cases" where they've fked up and been found out so realistically not even scratching the surface of how rife this actually is in the Muslim community.

Do you think the majority of Muslims in the UK are criminals as you inferred earlier?

[j_4m]

Alpinestars said:

Not all this again. Which returning poster are you?

Who commits most rapes in the U.K.?

CEOP states in multiple studies that Asian men are over-represented in child grooming and sexual abuse cases, which is what we are talking about in this thread. MOJ and ONS collates some information about race and crime but sexual abuse, particularly against children, has no complete statistics.

Alpinestars said:

Which countries are at the top of child sexual abuse?

I imagine the countries that consistently secure convictions against abusers and accurately report that data. Given that the Islamic Council has stated that DNA tests should not be considered primary evidence in rape cases I don't particularly trust certain countries' reporting.

[Lemming Train]

chrispmartha said:

Do you think the majority of Muslims in the UK are criminals as you inferred earlier?

Living in a BD postcode and also being fairly central to the other big Muslim areas in W Yorks means I get to witness first hand the shenanigans that goes on, unlike the majority of lefty posters on here that live in the leafy suburbs of ruralshire where everyone within a 20 mile radius is white. Yes, I do think the majority of Muslims are criminals in some way from my observations as they have absolutely no respect for UK law and do exactly as they like knowing that the police won't come within a mile of them for fear of the usual racist accusations which the Muslims have perfected don't to a tee.

I could go on to draw some comparisons with another notorious section of society but I'd probably get locked up for some BS "hate crime" so I shall leave it at that.

[chrispmartha]

Lemming Train said:

Living in a BD postcode and also being fairly central to the other big Muslim areas in W Yorks means I get to witness first hand the shenanigans that goes on, unlike the majority of lefty posters on here that live in the leafy suburbs of ruralshire where everyone within a 20 mile radius is white. Yes, I do think the majority of Muslims are criminals in some way from my observations as they have absolutely no respect for UK law and do exactly as they like knowing that the police won't come within a mile of them for fear of the usual racist accusations which the Muslims have perfected don't to a tee.

I could go on to draw some comparisons with another notorious section of society but I'd probably get locked up for some BS "hate crime" so I shall leave it at that.

I Live in a BD postcode HTH

Do you really think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

Or for that matter do you think the majority of Muslims in West Yorkshire are criminals?

[Lemming Train]

chrispmartha said:

Lemming Train said:

Living in a BD postcode and also being fairly central to the other big Muslim areas in W Yorks means I get to witness first hand the shenanigans that goes on, unlike the majority of lefty posters on here that live in the leafy suburbs of ruralshire where everyone within a 20 mile radius is white. Yes, I do think the majority of Muslims are criminals in some way from my observations as they have absolutely no respect for UK law and do exactly as they like knowing that the police won't come within a mile of them for fear of the usual racist accusations which the Muslims have perfected don't to a tee.

I could go on to draw some comparisons with another notorious section of society but I'd probably get locked up for some BS "hate crime" so I shall leave it at that.

I Live in a BD postcode HTH

Do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

Why don't you try reading my post instead of repeating yourself over and over?

[RobGT81]

chrispmartha said:

I Live in a BD postcode HTH

Do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

Pretty sure he just answered that question, you even quoted it.

[chrispmartha]

Lemming Train said:

chrispmartha said:

Lemming Train said:

Living in a BD postcode and also being fairly central to the other big Muslim areas in W Yorks means I get to witness first hand the shenanigans that goes on, unlike the majority of lefty posters on here that live in the leafy suburbs of ruralshire where everyone within a 20 mile radius is white. Yes, I do think the majority of Muslims are criminals in some way from my observations as they have absolutely no respect for UK law and do exactly as they like knowing that the police won't come within a mile of them for fear of the usual racist accusations which the Muslims have perfected don't to a tee.

I could go on to draw some comparisons with another notorious section of society but I'd probably get locked up for some BS "hate crime" so I shall leave it at that.

I Live in a BD postcode HTH

Do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

Why don't you try reading my post instead of repeating yourself over and over?

I amended it with an extra question, but still id like to see your evidence for such a ridiculous and divisive claim

No comment on me being a ‘lefty’ living in a BD postcode or was that just another generalisation of yours?

Edited by chrispmartha on Thursday 28th February 12:20

[chrispmartha]

RobGT81 said:

chrispmartha said:

I Live in a BD postcode HTH

Do you think the majority of Muslims in Britain are criminals?

Pretty sure he just answered that question, you even quoted it.

Quite right apologies i missed it but do you agree with that claim ?