another abuse gang

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colin_p

4,503 posts

212 months

dandarez

13,288 posts

283 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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colin_p said:
Hmm. Bucks Free Press.
AND that was last Monday the 13th. 'Major' investigation but not considered important enough for national news then?

And low and behold, just up the road across Oxfordshire, the following day 14th, more child sex arrests.
Again, nothing national.
Although the Beeb 'mentioned' it - in their 'local' Oxford news. rolleyes

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18581568.police-...

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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Not the first Gang in high Wycombe

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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dandarez said:
Hmm. Bucks Free Press.
AND that was last Monday the 13th. 'Major' investigation but not considered important enough for national news then?

And low and behold, just up the road across Oxfordshire, the following day 14th, more child sex arrests.
Again, nothing national.
Although the Beeb 'mentioned' it - in their 'local' Oxford news. rolleyes

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18581568.police-...
It's good to see the police taking allegations of offences that happened between 2000 and 2007 seriously.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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coolg said:
Not the first Gang in high Wycombe
It's been going on in Wycombe for the last 30 years in full knowledge of the police and social services.

colin_p

4,503 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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dandarez said:
colin_p said:
Hmm. Bucks Free Press.
AND that was last Monday the 13th. 'Major' investigation but not considered important enough for national news then?

And low and behold, just up the road across Oxfordshire, the following day 14th, more child sex arrests.
Again, nothing national.
Although the Beeb 'mentioned' it - in their 'local' Oxford news. rolleyes

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18581568.police-...
The national news outlets as we should all know by now, especially broadcast media and in particular the BBC, have a habit of simply ignoring news that makes a nonsense of their own agendas.

BMW A6

1,911 posts

64 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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So every child abuse case should be a national news headline? rolleyes

ReallyReallyGood

1,622 posts

130 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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BMW A6 said:
So every child abuse case should be a national news headline? rolleyes
It's more newsworthy than most of the stuff they deem important. Right now, a Cathedral roof on fire in a foreign country, a Bollywood star being admitted to hospital, and some dodgy behaviour by the FBI in Portland are considered front-page news on BBC. A Police dawn raid against criminals and gangs operating in cities and market towns are more relevant to us than any of that.

Edited by ReallyReallyGood on Saturday 18th July 14:37

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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ReallyReallyGood said:
BMW A6 said:
So every child abuse case should be a national news headline? rolleyes
It's more newsworthy than most of the stuff they deem important. Right now, a Cathedral roof on fire in a foreign country, a Bollywood star being admitted to hospital, and some dodgy behaviour by the FBI in Portland are considered front-page news on BBC. A Police dawn raid against criminals and gangs operating in cities and market towns are more relevant to us than any of that.

Edited by ReallyReallyGood on Saturday 18th July 14:37
Or that this is so common now that it is not deemed news ?

colin_p

4,503 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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coolg said:
ReallyReallyGood said:
BMW A6 said:
So every child abuse case should be a national news headline? rolleyes
It's more newsworthy than most of the stuff they deem important. Right now, a Cathedral roof on fire in a foreign country, a Bollywood star being admitted to hospital, and some dodgy behaviour by the FBI in Portland are considered front-page news on BBC. A Police dawn raid against criminals and gangs operating in cities and market towns are more relevant to us than any of that.

Edited by ReallyReallyGood on Saturday 18th July 14:37
Or that this is so common now that it is not deemed news ?
Or is it that it goes against the "agenda" and "community cohesion" is at risk and there are fears of a "backlash" against a certain "community" that has never happened and never will.

Despite the promises, it seems that "lessons" are never learned and it is perfectly acceptable to continue to label anyone who voices concerns as fascist bigot racist nazi, or whatever is currently flavour of the day.

Sacrificing our children on the altar of political correctness, it seems, for many is still preferable to the merest hint of them being called racist.

The BBC at some point in the future, "largely peaceful child abuse".









BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Sad but not surprising.

“ Child abuse inquiry is a 'cover up', says detective who exposed grooming scandal”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-abuse-...

Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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The Article said:
The inquiry published all the parts of Ms Oliver’s statement that were relevant...
Whitewash.

I have long said that I cannot fathom the sense of having parallel, separate CSA and County Lines teams. Surely, for the vast bulk of the cases, the individuals involved in crime are from the same, broader subset of society - the sort of people happy to deal drugs are also, at best indifferent to abuse of minors and vulnerable victims and at worst complicit in it - and intelligence ought to be pooled.

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Has the Government review into Grooming been published yet ?

George Smiley

5,048 posts

81 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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coolg said:
Has the Government review into Grooming been published yet ?
Geoffrey Dickens Report will turn up first

freakybacon

551 posts

163 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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coolg

650 posts

46 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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freakybacon said:
It’s sad but the public is numb to this now.

Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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coolg said:
freakybacon said:
It’s sad but the public is numb to this now.
I actually don't think that is true. I think there is a very deep seated outrage, directed both at the minority that clearly set out to prey on vulnerable individuals and also at authorities, that the situation was ever allowed to get so far out of hand. That will not go away.

J4CKO

41,583 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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I started a thread but rightly got pointed at this, so

I saw this,

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/...

Posted on Facebook by someone who feels very passionately about keeping everyone informed about crimes committed by certain demographics, though strangely silent if anyone of their own background does anything unpleasant.

It annoys me as the subtext is basically "Them, see, I told you, bad lot they are, grrrrr" even without the article mentioning origin.

I think it is very very unhelpful but unfortunately probably accurate, I wanted to put some kind of put down but despite the approach they are more than likely making correct assumptions based on the details as provided. But being racist doesn't help with sorting the issues out, 2 wrongs and that.

2 comments after the initial post,

"Thats superb news and great work from all involved, BUT Why on earth do they release them on bail having allegedly committed horrendous crimes.
I wonder how many of those released flee abroad or get lost amongst there own community "

Second one, a more direct,

"I can probably guess at which race and religion they are . The reality of multiculturalism."


Separating the genuine issue from good old fashioned racism seems difficult for some but why does this keep happening with such tedious regularity, its utterly reprehensible ? Even then its not all men from that background, even if it seems to be disproportionate.

Then you have the polar opposite, get told you are racist for mentioning it at all, nothing to see here, sweep it under the carpet...

I don't associate myself with such posts by replying, easy to write something and be misconstrued, so just come on here to moan at you lot and hopefully get some reasoned replies.

A Winner Is You

24,983 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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eccles

13,740 posts

222 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Digga said:
coolg said:
freakybacon said:
It’s sad but the public is numb to this now.
I actually don't think that is true. I think there is a very deep seated outrage, directed both at the minority that clearly set out to prey on vulnerable individuals and also at authorities, that the situation was ever allowed to get so far out of hand. That will not go away.
It doesn't seem to make the national news any more.
After the initial outrage which seemed to focus on the authorities and their lack of action rather than the the background and reasons of the perpetrators, it's as if the media have said we've done our bit and moved on.