Max Clifford arrested on suspicion of sexual offences
Discussion
wc98 said:
skwdenyer said:
wc98 said:
she was only 15 and he a grown man at the time .
The judge says she was "18 or 19"Counts 3-6 met you when she was on holiday. She was 15 years old." from here http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Document...
I'm not too fussed where he does his time....
For him losing his credibility, his PR business, his wife and subsequent costs plus potentially being subject to compensation claims to someone so self obsessed will be devastating.
Not forgetting the time this buys for other victims to come forward to keep him incarcerated longer - much as may happen to Stuart Hall
For him losing his credibility, his PR business, his wife and subsequent costs plus potentially being subject to compensation claims to someone so self obsessed will be devastating.
Not forgetting the time this buys for other victims to come forward to keep him incarcerated longer - much as may happen to Stuart Hall
Willhire89 said:
I'm not too fussed where he does his time....
For him losing his credibility, his PR business, his wife and subsequent costs plus potentially being subject to compensation claims to someone so self obsessed will be devastating.
Not forgetting the time this buys for other victims to come forward to keep him incarcerated longer - much as may happen to Stuart Hall
Unfortunately I think he has the hide of a rhino - his character type will adapt to the circumstances, see it as a sabbatical to write his book which will sell millions of copies despite ourselves. For him losing his credibility, his PR business, his wife and subsequent costs plus potentially being subject to compensation claims to someone so self obsessed will be devastating.
Not forgetting the time this buys for other victims to come forward to keep him incarcerated longer - much as may happen to Stuart Hall
It's his biggest PR challenge to date.
JuniorD said:
That prison sounds like it's literally a walk in the park. I'm sure manys an impoverished pensioner would rather live there than an old people's home or in their own miserable loney homes.
You'll never here an ex con saying that. Open prisons are still prisons - you're denied your freedom. Believe me, it hurts still. Away from familiarity, friends, family normal life.
The media like to stir up the public with stories of cushy courses, TV's, special lessons, no lockdown etc. the fact is these prisons have a lower re-offending rate when prisoners are released than normal prisons (Cat A, B).
Now surely that's a good thing?
It makes no difference to the prisoner where they are put. It's human nature to adapt.
Up until the 90's proper Victorian prisons (Chelmsford, Rochester, Brixton) had no TV's, no toilets (just a "piss-pot"), 22 hour lockdown, proper "Porridge" cells, f
k all visits etc but the prisoner still gets used to it and the only thing that hurts is lack if freedom.Clifford's life is over, literally, and he's been punished.
MajorProblem said:
If his company is ruined and no one wants to work with him and possibly any family he passes it on to (if he has any) I can't see why he wouldn't make a book of all the secrets he knows, he's got nothing to lose, may as well get the divorce out he way then get on with it.
Much of the knowledge stems from other people knowing something and him paying them off to not publish, if that information remains more valuable being paid to be buried then that will continue via another medium. At the same time, unless he recorded what his clients told him then it would be hard for him to publish anything.
If he really does know proper juicy stuff, such as rumours of what some people do at Sandy Lanes etc then they will continue to keep him on retainers worth far more than any book deal.
My guess would be that you won't hear a peep in regards to the clients who held MC on monthly retainer to manipulate and control what was and wasn't published about them.
kev1974 said:
If he must stay in a nice holiday camp the least they could do is bill him the cost of his stay and save the taxpayer some £££.
I do wonder why they don't do this. If someone is extremely well off and goes to prison then surely in a kind of "proceeds of crime" way they should pay the costandy_s said:
Unfortunately I think he has the hide of a rhino - his character type will adapt to the circumstances, see it as a sabbatical to write his book which will sell millions of copies despite ourselves.
It's his biggest PR challenge to date.
He will have to publish it himself, I suspect, because post-Leveson celebs now know that when they band together they have some power. You'd have to be a brave publisher to produce a book blowing the gaff on celeb misdemeanours as you may end up reaping a whirlwind of heavy-duty legal challenges. Clifford is a convicted liar too, so not the most credible basis for his defence brief. It's his biggest PR challenge to date.
With these feet said:
I wonder how much of it will go to the wife when she divorces him. Quite a bit I hope....
He took out a mortgage on one of his houses just before his trial. One wonders where that went. I've been asking around and the answers are confusing. Is there anyone who could clarify the point?
Mrs C: what's her entitlement? Is her share calculated before or after the claimants for damages take their share? Would the case stop her from wandering away with her cut or would she have to wait for the outcome?
Or, to put it another way, if you were about to be sued, would it benefit your wife to divorce you even if, perhaps, you were still intending to be a couple after any prison sentence?
If you get my drift.
GTIR said:
JuniorD said:
That prison sounds like it's literally a walk in the park. I'm sure manys an impoverished pensioner would rather live there than an old people's home or in their own miserable loney homes.
You'll never here an ex con saying that. Open prisons are still prisons - you're denied your freedom. Believe me, it hurts still. Away from familiarity, friends, family normal life.
The media like to stir up the public with stories of cushy courses, TV's, special lessons, no lockdown etc. the fact is these prisons have a lower re-offending rate when prisoners are released than normal prisons (Cat A, B).
Now surely that's a good thing?
It makes no difference to the prisoner where they are put. It's human nature to adapt.
Up until the 90's proper Victorian prisons (Chelmsford, Rochester, Brixton) had no TV's, no toilets (just a "piss-pot"), 22 hour lockdown, proper "Porridge" cells, f
k all visits etc but the prisoner still gets used to it and the only thing that hurts is lack if freedom.Clifford's life is over, literally, and he's been punished.
t. No doubt more charges and time will be added.burwoodman said:
spot on. Many on here have been watching too many wise guy movies depicting lobster and steak dinners. The man is locked up and can not do as he pleases and now is told when to go to bed, get up and take a st. No doubt more charges and time will be added.
true but the difference between this prison and hm wakefield for example is massivet. No doubt more charges and time will be added.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff