Max Clifford arrested on suspicion of sexual offences

Max Clifford arrested on suspicion of sexual offences

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Thankyou4calling

10,607 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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In my opinion he has no info that could really damage any celebs, bearing in mind many are already known drug users, sexual predators and bankrupts yet their careers seem unaffected. Would it really matter what he revealed? Most would see it as the work of a bitter man with an axe to grind.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
In my opinion he has no info that could really damage any celebs, bearing in mind many are already known drug users, sexual predators and bankrupts yet their careers seem unaffected. Would it really matter what he revealed? Most would see it as the work of a bitter man with an axe to grind.
imo he has tons of damaging information but why on earth would he bother releasing it?

unrepentant

21,272 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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WCZ said:
Thankyou4calling said:
In my opinion he has no info that could really damage any celebs, bearing in mind many are already known drug users, sexual predators and bankrupts yet their careers seem unaffected. Would it really matter what he revealed? Most would see it as the work of a bitter man with an axe to grind.
imo he has tons of damaging information but why on earth would he bother releasing it?
Because he's a nasty little ?

Thankyou4calling

10,607 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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WCZ said:
imo he has tons of damaging information but why on earth would he bother releasing it?
Only time will tell but I don't think there will be anything.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
In my opinion he has no info that could really damage any celebs, bearing in mind many are already known drug users, sexual predators and bankrupts yet their careers seem unaffected. Would it really matter what he revealed? Most would see it as the work of a bitter man with an axe to grind.
I always thought (based on interviews with the slimeball himself) that his PR skills came in two parts
- positive PR, same as any PR company, i.e. knowing who to talk to to get something out there that someone wants getting out to a wide audience
- burial PR, and this is where his years in the business and contacts made in those years really paid off, STOPPING something getting out - at least *** at the time *** that someone was worried about it getting out. He would mainly achieve this in two main ways. 1, throwing some OTHER story out there and basically distracting all the media from the story he was being paid to bury. 2, basic threats or gifts to particular reporters/papers, along the lines of "publish X and I'll not give you the scoop on Y next month, it'll go to your rival paper Z instead" and "here's a scoop on A in exchange for you not publishing this story on B".

A lot of the time whatever he was burying would come out eventually but by the time it did it didn't matter so much.

Hence I don't think he really has that many juicy secrets to reveal. A lot of them will have generally become "unsensational" just through the simple passage of time, the point is he managed the stories during the window when they were at their most damaging, or he just kept the lid on things long enough for the public to get outraged about something else unrelated instead and forget about the scandal of three months previous.

He has said himself that people didn't hire him for specific incidents, you had to hire him for six or 12 month periods. After that they would stop paying him, his work was done, he buried the story for a few months being the months that it mattered. Yes a few people had him on much much longer period retainers but they were the likes of Simon Cowell who had him doing the "positive PR", type 1 above, more about managing regular "good news" that someone wanted out there rather than burying specific "bad news".

wc98

10,416 posts

141 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Derek Smith said:
He took out a mortgage on one of his houses just before his trial. One wonders where that went.

I've been asking around and the answers are confusing. Is there anyone who could clarify the point?

Mrs C: what's her entitlement? Is her share calculated before or after the claimants for damages take their share? Would the case stop her from wandering away with her cut or would she have to wait for the outcome?

Or, to put it another way, if you were about to be sued, would it benefit your wife to divorce you even if, perhaps, you were still intending to be a couple after any prison sentence?

If you get my drift.
that approach seems to have worked well for bernie ecclestone.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
What arethe odds. Of verdicts being overturned on appeal?
The independent corroboration seems strong in this case, which is so important for historical offences with multiple victims.



DonkeyApple

55,400 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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kev1974 said:
I always thought (based on interviews with the slimeball himself) that his PR skills came in two parts
- positive PR, same as any PR company, i.e. knowing who to talk to to get something out there that someone wants getting out to a wide audience
- burial PR, and this is where his years in the business and contacts made in those years really paid off, STOPPING something getting out - at least *** at the time *** that someone was worried about it getting out. He would mainly achieve this in two main ways. 1, throwing some OTHER story out there and basically distracting all the media from the story he was being paid to bury. 2, basic threats or gifts to particular reporters/papers, along the lines of "publish X and I'll not give you the scoop on Y next month, it'll go to your rival paper Z instead" and "here's a scoop on A in exchange for you not publishing this story on B".

A lot of the time whatever he was burying would come out eventually but by the time it did it didn't matter so much.

Hence I don't think he really has that many juicy secrets to reveal. A lot of them will have generally become "unsensational" just through the simple passage of time, the point is he managed the stories during the window when they were at their most damaging, or he just kept the lid on things long enough for the public to get outraged about something else unrelated instead and forget about the scandal of three months previous.

He has said himself that people didn't hire him for specific incidents, you had to hire him for six or 12 month periods. After that they would stop paying him, his work was done, he buried the story for a few months being the months that it mattered. Yes a few people had him on much much longer period retainers but they were the likes of Simon Cowell who had him doing the "positive PR", type 1 above, more about managing regular "good news" that someone wanted out there rather than burying specific "bad news".
I think you are generally right.

However low and worthless tabloid scrawlers are they would only be taking girls, cash, threats, other stories, whatever for your generic 'cheating' tales etc. Anything genuinely shocking would be out as the coup would outweigh anything MC could offer. We are generally talking low end tittle tattle such as sending girls out to find footballers etc.

The only area that is actually damaging are the male clients who are paying to prevent the media from revealing that they spend more time with boys than women. There are several of these.

I suspect the

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
WCZ said:
imo he has tons of damaging information but why on earth would he bother releasing it?
Only time will tell but I don't think there will be anything.
He makes up a large proportion of what he releases. There's generally some truth at the centre of it, but having lost his credibility, I think he will find it difficult to get much of his mud to stick in future.

CoolHands

18,677 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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haha it's official his wife has filed for divorce....She's done alright I suppose - only had to put up with 4 yrs of marriage, I wonder how much she'll get.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625358/Th...

Derek Smith

45,685 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th May 2014
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CoolHands said:
haha it's official his wife has filed for divorce....She's done alright I suppose - only had to put up with 4 yrs of marriage, I wonder how much she'll get.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625358/Th...
I was wondering:

If she files for divorce then would the claims against his estate be limited to that not settled on her after the divorce?

Now there are rumours that he's realised assets. Has this been done without her consent? Without her full cooperation?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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His wife has applied for a quickie divorce. Oh well. Hope she takes him to the cleaners.

Edit: oops, thought this was news. Coat.

Edited by hornetrider on Tuesday 20th May 00:34

Slaav

4,255 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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wc98 said:
Derek Smith said:
He took out a mortgage on one of his houses just before his trial. One wonders where that went.

I've been asking around and the answers are confusing. Is there anyone who could clarify the point?

Mrs C: what's her entitlement? Is her share calculated before or after the claimants for damages take their share? Would the case stop her from wandering away with her cut or would she have to wait for the outcome?

Or, to put it another way, if you were about to be sued, would it benefit your wife to divorce you even if, perhaps, you were still intending to be a couple after any prison sentence?

If you get my drift.
that approach seems to have worked well for bernie ecclestone.
Oops, I've just started a thread on this exact topic.... Had read this one religiously and hadn't noticed new posts... Apologies, I could have stuck it here!

And if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck.....???

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Slaav said:
And if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck.....???
It probably quacks as well?

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Turing_Duck_Tes...


_Deano

7,406 posts

254 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Very funny article, that made me giggle biggrin Cheers

jbswagger

734 posts

202 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Max Clifford loses appeal to cut sentence


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29949884

TokyoSexwhale

12,230 posts

195 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Wonder what's happening to his company, behind the scenes.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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TokyoSexwhale said:
Wonder what's happening to his company, behind the scenes.
Shut down, insolvent.

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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TokyoSexwhale said:
Wonder what's happening to his company, behind the scenes.
Wonder whats happening to his bottom, behind bars.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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"Former celebrity publicist Max Clifford has been arrested by Operation Yewtree officers, the BBC understands.

Clifford, who is currently serving an eight-year prison sentence for indecent assault, is thought to have been interviewed by officers in connection with sexual offence allegations."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31861567