7 yr old and forced Radiotherapy

7 yr old and forced Radiotherapy

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Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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custodian said:
Well if you read the article, it says that eating healthily after chemo and radiotherapy helped her recovery. Can't really argue with that.
And how do you gauge "helped her recovery"?

How do you know she wouldn't have got better quicker eating KFC and chock chip icecream?

Perhaps the feel good factor of eating chock chip would be like placebo.

She was treated with Conventional remedies and got better. That is all we know.


El Guapo

2,787 posts

191 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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custodian said:
Well if you read the article, it says that eating healthily after chemo and radiotherapy helped her recovery. Can't really argue with that.
"Eating healthily" is a tremendously vague phrase, to the point of being meaningless.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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El Guapo said:
"Eating healthily" is a tremendously vague phrase, to the point of being meaningless.
One can probably assume it doesn't include eating arsenic, but aside from that it's fairly open.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Chemo can leave people feeling like crap, with anaemia and neutropenia, weight loss, opportunistic infections, etc. So suggesting a healthy diet to aid recovery is a bit of a no-brainer.

It doesn't follow, however, that there is any benefit from a diet filled with all kinds of organic crap.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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TheSnitch said:
Chemo can leave people feeling like crap, with anaemia and neutropenia, weight loss, opportunistic infections, etc. So suggesting a healthy diet to aid recovery is a bit of a no-brainer.

It doesn't follow, however, that there is any benefit from a diet filled with all kinds of organic crap.
exactly, in the immediate aftermath of chemo or radiotherpay any food intake can be good ... but as things return towards normal , yes a healthy, balanced diet covering a bit of everything is a no brainer.

hairykrishna

13,185 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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She's not advocating a healthy balanced diet;

article said:
“My doctor said he had never known anyone be quite so well,” she said. “I would put it down to complementary medicine and alkalining my body.”

An alkaline diet is a common form of alternative medicine that claims to prevent cancer and help the treatment of it by making body fluids less acidic.
Typical woo 'alkali' diets are far from balanced - they can actually be unhealthy because you're cutting out stuff your body needs. "Crazy bint helped by conventional medicine, luckily failed to fk herself up with fad diet afterwards" is the actual story.

Derek Smith

45,772 posts

249 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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The full quote is believed to be:

article said:
“My doctor said he had never known anyone be quite so, well . . . what's the word, like complete nut job but slightly less judgemental. Oops, sorry, didn't mean to use the word mental”

Jasandjules

69,969 posts

230 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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Jasandjules said:
Magic water on the NHS. That's ridiculous.

otolith

56,323 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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CommanderJameson said:
Magic water on the NHS. That's ridiculous.
Don't worry, they can use it to put out the money they are burning.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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Jasandjules said:
You probably didn't know this either
http://www.dcscience.net/?p=4615


Enjoy.

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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CommanderJameson said:
Jasandjules said:
Magic water on the NHS. That's ridiculous.
... we have NHS commissioners trying to justify leaving people with diabetes without the supplies to check their blood sugar more than 4 times a day at the same time as paying for THIS st?! ragebanghead

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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BlackVanDyke said:
CommanderJameson said:
Jasandjules said:
Magic water on the NHS. That's ridiculous.
... we have NHS commissioners trying to justify leaving people with diabetes without the supplies to check their blood sugar more than 4 times a day at the same time as paying for THIS st?! ragebanghead
Frankly, it's a fking travesty.

Deliberations of the select committee from a couple of years back. Well worth a read.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/...

Do you know £20m was spent on refurbishing the London Homeopathic hospital a few years ago? NHS, ie our, money spent buffing up premises for the unsuspecting to have bullst witch doctor cobblers practiced on them.

It is beyond cobblers, it really is.

DonkeyApple

55,548 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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TheSnitch said:
BlackVanDyke said:
CommanderJameson said:
Jasandjules said:
Magic water on the NHS. That's ridiculous.
... we have NHS commissioners trying to justify leaving people with diabetes without the supplies to check their blood sugar more than 4 times a day at the same time as paying for THIS st?! ragebanghead
Frankly, it's a fking travesty.

Deliberations of the select committee from a couple of years back. Well worth a read.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/...

Do you know £20m was spent on refurbishing the London Homeopathic hospital a few years ago? NHS, ie our, money spent buffing up premises for the unsuspecting to have bullst witch doctor cobblers practiced on them.

It is beyond cobblers, it really is.
But how much has been saved by facilitating the opt out of expensive real medicine? Surely this is a brilliant money saving wheeze by the NHS?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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TheSnitch said:
Chemo can leave people feeling like crap, with anaemia and neutropenia, weight loss, opportunistic infections, etc. So suggesting a healthy diet to aid recovery is a bit of a no-brainer.

It doesn't follow, however, that there is any benefit from a diet filled with all kinds of organic crap.
but eating well can't cure cancer

Therefore it should not be available on the NHS

silly

XCP

16,950 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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Jasandjules said:
My mother had her varicose veins removed by surgery at that hospital. They do proper medicine as well!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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To get back OT, having seen the woman being interviewed this morning, I think this has more to do with her relationship with the boy's father than anything else.

Overwhelming impression is of a not very bright woman seeking vengeance. I hope she doesn't kill the boy.

Derek Smith

45,772 posts

249 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Jasandjules said:
According to my daughter, who works for NHS:

Doctors, and the health service in general, are more or less banned from prescribing placebos despite the research suggesting they work.

But, of course, homeopathy isn't a placebo according to the homeopaths so this sidesteps the limitations.

Not defending putting money in the pockets of snake oil salesmen, just commenting on the realities.