It's official. Scum breeds scum

[mattikake]

...allegedly.

http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/economic-en...

But like we didn't know this already? The question is, where do you point the finger? The system, banks, government, yourselves?

[rpguk]

I guess the word is society. I think that's probably a dirty word around here.

Edited by rpguk on Wednesday 2nd January 02:50

[aw51 121565]

A 1% negative deviation in the research hypothesis (that a 1% increase in unemployment terms leads to negative outcomes for 1 year olds in their adolescent years) leading to a 9.3% average negative correlation in all outcomes (and 17% negative in the "arrest" category especially - sexy, eh? ) ... might just be explained by a small minority of families facing unemployment in a recession 30 years ago having gone off the rails, while the vast majority of families in the sample group kept their noses clean - relatively few of the families who are victims of unemployment go to hell .

Most of us come across hard times occasionally, and our kids don't get criminal records, etc etc...

There is a bigger picture - try writing Masters level Papers, and looking at that bigger picture and explaining ALL the results and outcomes with possible explanations in polite terms .

"way to go" etc

[AJS-]

Where does scum breeding scum come into it?

[smegmore]

AJS- said:

Where does scum breeding scum come into it?

Quite.

'Seethalakshmi Ramanathan, M.B.B.S., D.P.M., of the State University of New York Upstate Medical University, and colleagues examined the relationship between the high unemployment rates during and after the 1980 and 1981-1982 recession, and rates of subsequent adolescent substance use and delinquent behaviors. Researchers used data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1997, which included a group of 8,984 adolescents born from January 1, 1980 through December 31, 1984.'

plus...

'According to the study results, exposure to a 1 percent deviation from mean regional unemployment rates at the age of 1 year was associated with an increase in the odds ratios of engaging in marijuana use (1.09), smoking (1.07), alcohol use (1.06), arrest (1.17), gang affiliation (1.09), and petty (1.06) and major theft (1.11). No significant associations were noted with the use of hard drugs and assaultive behavior, the results indicate.'

So, a spittle-flecked PH rant is imminent on the basis of an article from a septic shrink website?

A waste of bandwidth FFS.

[AJS-]

Perhaps everyone becomes scum when unemployment rises 1%?

[Einion Yrth]

We're scum, so we are.

[rohrl]

Depends who you judge to be scum I suppose.

[Stuart70]

So a 1% increase in unemployment has sociological consequences thereafter on a small proportion of impacted families.

Sounds like a socio economic problem relating lack of structure / economic well being.

Only a particularly inflammatory approach would lead to the thread title?

Would be more interesting to understand what the PH response to the problem would be, other than buy and MX5 and Tebbit like "get on your bike"?

Is there a central (or indeed local) government response which would have positive recuperative impact for the cohort of families which lost out through the recession? Hard to treat 100 people for a 1 person problem in a cost effective manner? How do you target the help - assuming of course there is a desire to help?

What would you do?