Snowmageddon - this Friday
Discussion
elster said:
Hooli said:
All we need is bosses with the balls to say 'your lying, there was no reason not to turn up' & suddenly everyone would manage to travel in the slight snow we get.
I used to have a boss like that. Although he offered to anyone who physically could not make it in would come and pick them up. Came to pick me up a couple of times when I couldn't get the van out. All fine.Not very often people would say they couldn't make it in, as he would turn up at your house to pick you up. No excuses then.
Digga said:
mrmr96 said:
The "cost of the equipment" is largely borne by the taxpayer.
We're already shouldring the cost of the equipment and its upkeep, but clearly in quite a few csaes, it's not been up to the job. I do notice, out and about, that there's been a lot of new gritter & plow trucks bought since the last major snows in 2010, so hopefully we'll do better...elster said:
I used to have a boss like that. Although he offered to anyone who physically could not make it in would come and pick them up. Came to pick me up a couple of times when I couldn't get the van out. All fine.
Not very often people would say they couldn't make it in, as he would turn up at your house to pick you up. No excuses then.
Oof - but good for him, I like this .Not very often people would say they couldn't make it in, as he would turn up at your house to pick you up. No excuses then.
shakotan said:
Digga said:
mrmr96 said:
The "cost of the equipment" is largely borne by the taxpayer.
We're already shouldring the cost of the equipment and its upkeep, but clearly in quite a few csaes, it's not been up to the job. I do notice, out and about, that there's been a lot of new gritter & plow trucks bought since the last major snows in 2010, so hopefully we'll do better...The council provided local farmers with a big feck off plough which fits onto a tractor which the farmers used to keep local roads clear. Not too sure if any money changed hands but it was an excellent system that worked well. it kept the roads clear and it saved the council a shedload of cash.
Then the government waded into the system and fked it up.
Tractors are allowed to use red diesel which is much cheaper for agricultural work. Clearing roads is not agricultural work so the tax tossers were threatening to prosecute any farmer found using red diesel while keeping the roads clear. Understandably the farmers said feck off and stopped clearing the roads.
I belive the tax tossers finally dropped the threat when everyone involved called them retards
thinfourth2 said:
I know that was built as a joke but topgear but the idea behind it is sound and has been in use up in the uncivilised north for many many years.
The council provided local farmers with a big feck off plough which fits onto a tractor which the farmers used to keep local roads clear. Not too sure if any money changed hands but it was an excellent system that worked well. it kept the roads clear and it saved the council a shedload of cash.
Then the government waded into the system and fked it up.
Tractors are allowed to use red diesel which is much cheaper for agricultural work. Clearing roads is not agricultural work so the tax tossers were threatening to prosecute any farmer found using red diesel while keeping the roads clear. Understandably the farmers said feck off and stopped clearing the roads.
I belive the tax tossers finally dropped the threat when everyone involved called them retards
IIRC the issue of liability insurance reared it's ugly head too - the LA will insist on £22.7 Terramillion cover for anyone attempting to work on the Highway, which your local smallholder is unlikely to have.The council provided local farmers with a big feck off plough which fits onto a tractor which the farmers used to keep local roads clear. Not too sure if any money changed hands but it was an excellent system that worked well. it kept the roads clear and it saved the council a shedload of cash.
Then the government waded into the system and fked it up.
Tractors are allowed to use red diesel which is much cheaper for agricultural work. Clearing roads is not agricultural work so the tax tossers were threatening to prosecute any farmer found using red diesel while keeping the roads clear. Understandably the farmers said feck off and stopped clearing the roads.
I belive the tax tossers finally dropped the threat when everyone involved called them retards
In our village there is a private convalescent home on a large estate. They have a small tractor for grass cutting/general duties, and they bought a plow for their 1/2 mile driveways. Last snowfall the gardening bod cleared the whole village (just the main routes in and through) in less than two hours. Better than the highways agency did on the A route at the top of the hill.
Where there's a will and all that.
The Don of Croy said:
IIRC the issue of liability insurance reared it's ugly head too - the LA will insist on £22.7 Terramillion cover for anyone attempting to work on the Highway, which your local smallholder is unlikely to have.
In our village there is a private convalescent home on a large estate. They have a small tractor for grass cutting/general duties, and they bought a plow for their 1/2 mile driveways. Last snowfall the gardening bod cleared the whole village (just the main routes in and through) in less than two hours. Better than the highways agency did on the A route at the top of the hill.
Where there's a will and all that.
Dairy farmers will do it anyway. They cannot afford a missed milk tanker collection so they will do their up most to ensure the tanker can get to the farm They will even tow the tanker with tractors to the farm if necessary.In our village there is a private convalescent home on a large estate. They have a small tractor for grass cutting/general duties, and they bought a plow for their 1/2 mile driveways. Last snowfall the gardening bod cleared the whole village (just the main routes in and through) in less than two hours. Better than the highways agency did on the A route at the top of the hill.
Where there's a will and all that.
cookie118 said:
I might leave the bike at home, although my usual route uses Widcombe Hill, so a bit more potential for things to go wrong!
You'll be OK going up to Uni, coming back down might be more interesting A few years ago I ran to work in the snow, finishing down the North Road hill from the Uni. It was great, overtaking traffic on foot I have to drive from Kent to Roehampton south London Friday afternoon/evening. In a BMW with runflats (awful in the snow) I may sound like a girl here but i'm not looking forward to it if it does snow!
And to think I used to live in Newcastle.......My experience generally though is that most cope fine with snow. But then one person panics. And it all goes downhill rapidly.....
And to think I used to live in Newcastle.......My experience generally though is that most cope fine with snow. But then one person panics. And it all goes downhill rapidly.....
DonkeyApple said:
Phil1 said:
I'm sure the UK could cope with snow just fine if it invested in the equipment required, just as Finland will have done. Maybe there just isn't the appetite for that kind of spend when we don't get snow quite as often as Finland does.
Spend money on equipment that rarely gets used, or put up with a few closed roads and airports when it does.
You can see how the latter is chosen when belief in MMGW is so prevalent in the mainstream view.
I think the UK does cope just fine. It's the media industry and their professionally angry viewers who can't cope and have a total wkfest at the thought of snow. Spend money on equipment that rarely gets used, or put up with a few closed roads and airports when it does.
You can see how the latter is chosen when belief in MMGW is so prevalent in the mainstream view.
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