Snowmageddon - this Friday

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Happy82

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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FiF said:
So schools in many counties already confimed as closed on Mnday.

DT said:
Schools in counties such as Devon, Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Northamptonshire, Staffordshire, Somerset, Sussex, Warwickshire, Worcestershire and parts of south Wales had already confirmed many full or partial closures by Sunday night.
Other schools in northern counties were expected to follow on Monday morning, with heavy snow expected to fall overnight in parts of the UK.
Meanwhile 99% just carry on.... allegedly!

Nope, UK is a joke.
Pathetic isn't it? I guess it brings up yet another generation of people who think that half an inch of snow equals an excuse for a day off work rolleyes

dmulally

6,195 posts

180 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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I was reading this thread with envy on Friday. In Sydney it was a comfy 46 degrees and due to the power lines sagging there were issues with the trains. The one I was on which is normally a 45 min trip took three hours. No aircon. Tiny windows that did nothing. Some poor lady started throwing up but couldn't even lay down as there was no space and even if the selfish pricks wanted to offer their seat (they didn't) she wouldn't be able to make it there anyway.

People were crying and when they finally opened the doors at some random station everyone piled out to drink up the fresh 46 degree air. Delicious.

I just moved into a house that I bought partially for the beautiful garden it had with the PO being a retired couple who loved the place. The grass is now brown and all the plants are dead. I wish it fking snowed here.

Butter Face

30,319 posts

160 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Finally snowing in Cornwall

Now, if you haven't been to Cornwall, you can't imagine the devastation this is going to cause today!!!

croyde

22,942 posts

230 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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London schools should go by the E36 quotient.

If I, a semi-competent driver can get around London without any problems driving a RWD 2.5l 1997 3-series on Falken 912s (I think that's the model of tyre) then the schools should stay open biggrin

OK I did get it stuck in our road when I parked on a steep camber facing uphill. No buggering grip and the cars behind and in front were only inches away so not much room to move.

Problem solved by turning off the basic traction control and forgetting all the 2nd gear bks and just gunning it until the tyres had melted the slush and ice biggrin

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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is this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265333/Bi...
what this 'snowpocalypse' is?

mostly clear roads and a light dusting of snow?

schools closed, panic buying, 3 hours to drive home etc?

FFS, Britain

Sparta VAG

436 posts

147 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Hugo a Gogo said:
FFS, Britain
And to think this is from the nation that supposedly endured the Blitz with a "keep calm and carry on" attitude.

If only the Luftwaffe had dropped a few inches of snow on the M25 instead of bombs we'd have capitulated and all have been speaking German by now.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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It would make a massive difference if people just cleared the snow from the pavements outside their houses. I spent a short time doing mine and my neighbours sections of pavements, it doesn't take long.

As it is I had a couple of "interpretive dance" moments on the way to the station this morning hehe

Zigster

1,653 posts

144 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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page3 said:
All Season are the answer then. Our bog-standard Focus (1.6 auto, no traction control) has been great on Vredestein Quatrac 3's. I can understand not wanting to swap to Winters, but I really don't see why 'normal' (aka Boring) cars aren't fitted with All Season as standard instead of Summers which seem so inappropriate for our climate. Obviously performance and specialist cars are different.
That's been puzzling me too. Surely all season tyres are the right answer for the UK. Enthusiasts can get different sets of tyres for different seasons but Joe Public can quite happily potter around all year with little fuss (unless conditions get really bad). Why don't manufacturers fit them as standard to new cars in the UK?

croyde

22,942 posts

230 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Sparta VAG said:
And to think this is from the nation that supposedly endured the Blitz with a "keep calm and carry on" attitude.

If only the Luftwaffe had dropped a few inches of snow on the M25 instead of bombs we'd have capitulated and all have been speaking German by now.
Brilliant!



FiF

44,100 posts

251 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Zigster said:
That's been puzzling me too. Surely all season tyres are the right answer for the UK. Enthusiasts can get different sets of tyres for different seasons but Joe Public can quite happily potter around all year with little fuss (unless conditions get really bad). Why don't manufacturers fit them as standard to new cars in the UK?
At the risk of turning this into a winter tyre thread.

Personal opinion only, but manufacturers will do anything to get the vehicle fuel emissions down. This includes fitting tyres which have low rolling resistance, so harder compounds, simpler treads to shuffle about and waste energy, higher pressures even. How often do we see advice from Govt to raise pressures to save fuel.

This is all OK at normal temps, but when it gets cold there is no grip, even if the tyre outwardly looks to have a tread which should work.



One would think thiose would have a chance, often fitted to small vehicles as OEM, low power, small sizes, narrowish, higher profile. I can confirm that below 2/3C they are ditchfinders and on snow have all the grip of a Jack Russell on lino.

The other reason why manufacturers do as they do, big rims, low profile, tread that looks like semi slick track day tyres. Coz it looks well wikkid brah, innit.

Style over substance.

Randy Winkman

16,145 posts

189 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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FiF said:
The other reason why manufacturers do as they do, big rims, low profile, tread that looks like semi slick track day tyres. Coz it looks well wikkid brah, innit.

Style over substance.
I'd say this is the problem, more than "economy" tyres.

Oakey

27,589 posts

216 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Nice one council. Wait until the snow has covered everything 4 inches deep and then put grit down. I'm sure that will do loads.

irocfan

40,498 posts

190 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Butter Face said:
Finally snowing in Cornwall

Now, if you haven't been to Cornwall, you can't imagine the devastation this is going to cause today!!!
went there in feb - some of those roads are going to be lethal!

fido

16,799 posts

255 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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If someone hasn't already suggested it - perhaps those mobile tyre people could provide an additional winter service i.e. some bloke (or woman, i'm not sexist) comes around and switches your tyres at a fixed cost? What d'ya think? Perhaps a storage service for those who live in a flat or have no space.

aeropilot

34,636 posts

227 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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FiF said:
At the risk of turning this into a winter tyre thread.

Personal opinion only, but manufacturers will do anything to get the vehicle fuel emissions down. This includes fitting tyres which have low rolling resistance, so harder compounds, simpler treads to shuffle about and waste energy, higher pressures even. How often do we see advice from Govt to raise pressures to save fuel.

This is all OK at normal temps, but when it gets cold there is no grip, even if the tyre outwardly looks to have a tread which should work.



One would think thiose would have a chance, often fitted to small vehicles as OEM, low power, small sizes, narrowish, higher profile. I can confirm that below 2/3C they are ditchfinders and on snow have all the grip of a Jack Russell on lino.
It's definately the emissions/C02 bks that means OEM fit eco tyres, and the great unwashed of the UK, then replace them with Linglong ditchfinders rather than considering all-season, becuase they are largely ignorant that such a tyre even exists.

Even the style over substance sports kit bedecked soot chucker repmobiles could still use a low profile all season tyre instead of a ditchfinder sports thread version.


Digga

40,333 posts

283 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Stockholm's Arlanda airport has never shut due to snow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myaH9ClDjW8&fea...

Makes you feel kind of embarrassed doesn't it? I know people trot out the "yes but they're guaranteed snow" excuse, but you could make the same argument about only insuring your car when you 'know' you;re going to crash.

aeropilot

34,636 posts

227 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Sparta VAG said:
And to think this is from the nation that supposedly endured the Blitz with a "keep calm and carry on" attitude.

If only the Luftwaffe had dropped a few inches of snow on the M25 instead of bombs we'd have capitulated and all have been speaking German by now.
Indeed.

The trouble is very few people under the age of 50ish have any real geniune idea of the hardships faced by the generations of that era.


However, even if the Luftwaffe could have dropped snow, it would have struggled to have dropped it on the M25 or indeed any motorway in the UK winklaugh

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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yep, high altitude snow-bombing is simply not accurate enough wink

MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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5mm of snow here in Blackpool - except on the roads and pavements where it has mostly melted - and they're closing schools because staff can't get there ( though all the pupils seem to have made it OK, buses are running fine.... ).

Cue the knock on effect as people have to leave work to look after their kids.

Pathetic

Oakey

27,589 posts

216 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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MartG said:
5mm of snow here in Blackpool - except on the roads and pavements where it has mostly melted - and they're closing schools because staff can't get there ( though all the pupils seem to have made it OK, buses are running fine.... ).

Cue the knock on effect as people have to leave work to look after their kids.

Pathetic
Things you don't hear;

"Sorry mate, A&E is closed, staff couldn't get in. Snow, innit?"

"Sorry, we're afraid we can't send out the police / fire brigade / ambulance, they're all off today. Nobody could get in to work cos of the snow"

"Tesco / ASDA / Morrisons will be closed due to snow"