Glencoe avalanche
Discussion
Ozzie Osmond said:
I don't see any point in these "sobbing" threads with no content.
Can't people just do it quietly at home?
For God's sake it's hardly tasteless piles of teddy bears and heaps of flowers! It's just mutual empathy among those who tread the hills, and sympathy with those who lose loved ones.Can't people just do it quietly at home?
richtea78 said:
Why do people go up the hills when its that sort of weather though? It seems to me to be pretty selfish as now lots of people have to put their lives at risk to deal with it.
It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Nobody has to die like this. Accidents happen. Generally speaking, the precautions taken are enough to ensure that nothing untoward occurs. No different to, say, going for a spirited drive - you take all the precautions you can, but occasionally somebody gets caught out.It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Relative to the number of winter sports enthusiasts, avalanche accidents are probably no more statistically likely than a lethal accident in many other sports.
iphonedyou said:
richtea78 said:
Why do people go up the hills when its that sort of weather though? It seems to me to be pretty selfish as now lots of people have to put their lives at risk to deal with it.
It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Nobody has to die like this. Accidents happen. Generally speaking, the precautions taken are enough to ensure that nothing untoward occurs. No different to, say, going for a spirited drive - you take all the precautions you can, but occasionally somebody gets caught out.It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Relative to the number of winter sports enthusiasts, avalanche accidents are probably no more statistically likely than a lethal accident in many other sports.
Just the fact that you are experienced and go well equipped isn't enough for some of the conditions we have here.
I'm not saying you should be restricted to bright sunny days, but a bit of common sense would go a long way.
skyrover said:
why do people jump out of planes?
why do people run marathons?
why do people race cars?
There are risks involved with everything
Would you jump out a plane when there was a gale blowing? Race a car in pouring rain? No would be a normal persons answer. There are limits most people stick for just about anything, why should hill walking or mountain climbing be any different?why do people run marathons?
why do people race cars?
There are risks involved with everything
iphonedyou said:
richtea78 said:
Why do people go up the hills when its that sort of weather though? It seems to me to be pretty selfish as now lots of people have to put their lives at risk to deal with it.
It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Nobody has to die like this. Accidents happen. Generally speaking, the precautions taken are enough to ensure that nothing untoward occurs. No different to, say, going for a spirited drive - you take all the precautions you can, but occasionally somebody gets caught out.It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
Relative to the number of winter sports enthusiasts, avalanche accidents are probably no more statistically likely than a lethal accident in many other sports.
if it saves one live
richtea78 said:
Why do people go up the hills when its that sort of weather though? It seems to me to be pretty selfish as now lots of people have to put their lives at risk to deal with it.
It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
People do this because they want to, it gives enjoyment, and it is reasonably safe. Most of the MRT members are still active climbers themselves and would be out in similar conditions of their own accord. Some of this keeps them fresh for rescues. It may sound insensitive but I struggle to see any sort of reason why people have to die like this
It is very rare for teams to criticise the folk they rescue, but when they do it is for good reason. The majority that venture out are well prepared and know their limits. This was just a terrible accident.
How do you determine if an activity is safe? There is a comporable risk in driving to the hills, and road accidents put emergency services at risk when attending. Interestingly by far and away the most dangerous outdoor activity is base-jumping. Everything else carries similar risk (skiing, sky diving, mountain biking...)
eccles said:
Would you jump out a plane when there was a gale blowing? Race a car in pouring rain? No would be a normal persons answer. There are limits most people stick for just about anything, why should hill walking or mountain climbing be any different?
The activity here is hill walking and climbing in winter conditions. Winter is planned for and expected. Just in the same way as people sometimes go cycling in the rain, rally driving on the snow and ice or indeed race a car in the pouring rain.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff