Tony Blair is a national hero

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s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Funkycoldribena said:
Look what you've all done.
I hope you're satisfied with yourselves.




I am.
No great loss.Back to snowflake land he goes.



hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Derek Smith said:
I voted for Blair, or rather labour, in 97. Just the once for me. But the choice was clear cut. The tories were a shambles. In-fighting has always been a factor with them but after the demise of the sainted Thatcher there was a free for all, like last day at school my wife reckoned.

I've got no party politics. I vote for what's best for me and mine. I just didn't fancy all that squabbling. I still think it was the right decision. However, I didn't expect it to go on for so long.

I think that might well be Blair's hook. He was nothing if not stable and if, as is very possible, there is internal grief in the tories after the type of brexit means brexit route, then he's got a good card to play - I was stability itself.

Nothing the public likes more than voting out those MPs too self important to put the good of the country first.

All very good points except the last line IMO - my impression of blair is the definition of superior, self serving, self important somewhat sociopath whose been skulking in the shadows for some time waiting for an opportunity like this to ride in like a hero to save britain from itself, save europe and take his rightfull place as king of eu while the world cheers.

And the sad thing is he'd still con a lot of people - that generic lefty labour mp bint on "have i got news for you" the other night, you could see the conflict in her face as both brain cells struggled to form an apology that wouldnt get he laughed out the tv for one of her own. But I think outside of the rank-closing left mindset he's still too unpopular.

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Not sure if we have covered just how much of an utter he is, yet?

B'stard Child

28,458 posts

247 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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s3fella said:
Not sure if we have covered just how much of an utter he is, yet?
Nope - we might have touched on it but not really focused on it

I agree a complete and utter

Digga

40,395 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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REALIST123 said:
Derek Smith said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
The word "Toxic" and Blair are not strange bedfellows no floating voter will go near him.
That remains to be seen. Much stranger things have happened. We don't have to look far back in time to see dishonest MPs making comebacks. (Not that I'm suggesting Blair is dishonest of course, merely pointing out an 'in extremis' example.)

Some people even want some patently dishonest MPs to lead parties. Now that to me is strange.

I don't think you need to be afraid of suggesting he's dishonest. I don't think there's any doubt on that score......
Or a war criminal. In the eyes of many.

In the real world, people realise a good many such are never actually convicted, for numerous reasons.

saabster14

487 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Derek Smith said:
I voted for Blair, or rather labour, in 97. Just the once for me. But the choice was clear cut. The tories were a shambles. In-fighting has always been a factor with them but after the demise of the sainted Thatcher there was a free for all, like last day at school my wife reckoned.

I've got no party politics. I vote for what's best for me and mine. I just didn't fancy all that squabbling. I still think it was the right decision. However, I didn't expect it to go on for so long.

I think that might well be Blair's hook. He was nothing if not stable and if, as is very possible, there is internal grief in the tories after the type of brexit means brexit route, then he's got a good card to play - I was stability itself.

Nothing the public likes more than voting out those MPs too self important to put the good of the country first.

I agree with large chunks of this and would add there was genuine optimism after a shambolic end to the tory government of the time.

Whilst never an outright Blair fan boy (thought he was an overly smug, career politician) he was PM during some prosperous times in the late 90's and early 00's.

the act of going into Iraq with the American (and others) really changed perceptions of him 180 degrees in many peoples eyes. Smug politician to war criminal IMO. His business activities post PM duties have raised a few eyebrows also.

the fact that he is considering returning to politics is incredible and a sad reflection on the piss poor politicians currently running the UK.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Can't we get his pope pal to give him a sainthood and send him off to defeat extreme Islam?

That would work well for everybody.


saabster14

487 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Can't we get his pope pal to give him a sainthood and send him off to defeat extreme Islam?

That would work well for everybody.
was he not a peace envoy to the middle east? did he make a difference?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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saabster14 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can't we get his pope pal to give him a sainthood and send him off to defeat extreme Islam?

That would work well for everybody.
was he not a peace envoy to the middle east? did he make a difference?
Entirely different.

I'm talking fighting, not talking...I bet he's a wizz with an axe in one hand and a Nerf gun in the other. Absolute carnage...

Short Grain

2,825 posts

221 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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MPs vote 439 - 70 Against an inquiry into Blair!
Man must have some good sh*t on some people!

glazbagun

14,288 posts

198 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Short Grain said:
MPs vote 439 - 70 Against an inquiry into Blair!
Man must have some good sh*t on some people!
It's because they know they'd be next if they set a precident. MP's don't like responsibility or scrutiny.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Short Grain said:
MPs vote 439 - 70 Against an inquiry into Blair!
Man must have some good sh*t on some people!
Wrong man, check out his mate I reckon. That or they all fear the future when they are up for inspection....

grumbledoak

31,560 posts

234 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Shocked and stunned, here.

There isn't a court in the land for that P.O.S.

wc98

10,431 posts

141 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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BlackLabel said:
"She added: “It is not unusual for the Attorney General to intervene in these sort of cases in order to represent the public interest.”"
i strongly suspect her idea of "public interest" and the public's idea is a very different thing.

Digga

40,395 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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wc98 said:
BlackLabel said:
"She added: “It is not unusual for the Attorney General to intervene in these sort of cases in order to represent the public interest.”"
i strongly suspect her idea of "public interest" and the public's idea is a very different thing.
That's not going to go any way to dispelling the idea that the elite are entirely out of touch with the ordinary, mass population.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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That takes some doing.

"Tony Blair less popular than Jeremy Corbyn, poll finds"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony...

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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BlackLabel said:
That takes some doing.

"Tony Blair less popular than Jeremy Corbyn, poll finds"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony...
Where's that slippery ball of phlegm Campbell when you need him.

poo at Paul's

14,174 posts

176 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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BlackLabel said:
That takes some doing.

"Tony Blair less popular than Jeremy Corbyn, poll finds"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony...
They could be in a new comedy.

and er

JMGS4

8,741 posts

271 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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The only tme that bLIAR will be a national hero is when he suicide bombs the idiots in Brussels and takes the drunkard and his minions with him....