Tony Blair is a national hero
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irocfan said:
let's be honest as an orator he makes mincemeat of most of the current crop of politicos today. I'd happily put up JR-M against him, ditto Dan Hannan and possibly Farage (like him or loathe him, like Blair, he can speak)
May have been true once upon a time. Now he has too much baggage for most people to listen to him at all. Personally I think Dan Hannan (amongst others) would be the one making mincemeat. (Farage too in limited areas)More Blair dealings that stink.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/13/exclusi...
..and the same report but not behind a paywall...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4788780/To...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/13/exclusi...
..and the same report but not behind a paywall...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4788780/To...
BlackLabel said:
were are the pieces of Silver"Tony Blair calls on MPs and ministers to rise up and oppose Brexit as he hints at plans for a new political party"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
BlackLabel said:
"Tony Blair calls on MPs and ministers to rise up and oppose Brexit as he hints at plans for a new political party"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
But the new report by Mr Blair's Institute for Global Change says EU nationals should already have an offer of work when they arrive.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
Those who did not earn permission to stay would be banned from opening a bank account, renting a home or claiming benefits.
The report also proposes restricting free healthcare for unemployed migrants and letting universities charge EU nationals higher tuition fees than UK students.
Deptford Draylons said:
The report also proposes restricting free healthcare for unemployed migrants and letting universities charge EU nationals higher tuition fees than UK students.
I hope not. I've been saving for a return to uni and Europe seemed quite good value compared to England. BlackLabel said:
"Tony Blair calls on MPs and ministers to rise up and oppose Brexit as he hints at plans for a new political party"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
Good to see Mr Slimy trying to get back in the news. Just a shame that he's so deluded that he honestly believes that others respect his views.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/10/tony-bl...
A truly nasty piece of work.
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Robertj21a said:
Good to see Mr Slimy trying to get back in the news. Just a shame that he's so deluded that he honestly believes that others respect his views.
A truly nasty piece of work.
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It would appear that your views are not shared by Lord Harris, he whose activities caused someone to say that money polluted politics. A truly nasty piece of work.
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He reckons that he'd rather have a labour government led by Blair than ta tory party with its present leader.
So whether Blair's views are respected or just his leadership qualities, not everyone dismisses him.
funny how he comes out with this bks of stay in the EU but with much tighter Immigration controls just after kissing the ring piece of Junker.
They literally made Cameron look like a fool when he asked for help and all of a sudden this. Maybe they are starting to realise the value of us as members just a bit too late. All Blair will do is strengthen peoples resolve to leave.
They literally made Cameron look like a fool when he asked for help and all of a sudden this. Maybe they are starting to realise the value of us as members just a bit too late. All Blair will do is strengthen peoples resolve to leave.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Funny how he comes out with this bks of stay in the EU but with much tighter Immigration controls just after kissing the ring piece of Junker.
They literally made Cameron look like a fool when he asked for help and all of a sudden this. Maybe they are starting to realise the value of us as members just a bit too late. All Blair will do is strengthen peoples resolve to leave.
The guy is a total prick. He's not bothered about limiting immigration now - the damage is done, the block vote is here. All Labour has to do is sit back and let nature take it's course.They literally made Cameron look like a fool when he asked for help and all of a sudden this. Maybe they are starting to realise the value of us as members just a bit too late. All Blair will do is strengthen peoples resolve to leave.
Derek Smith said:
Robertj21a said:
Good to see Mr Slimy trying to get back in the news. Just a shame that he's so deluded that he honestly believes that others respect his views.
A truly nasty piece of work.
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It would appear that your views are not shared by Lord Harris, he whose activities caused someone to say that money polluted politics. A truly nasty piece of work.
.
He reckons that he'd rather have a labour government led by Blair than ta tory party with its present leader.
So whether Blair's views are respected or just his leadership qualities, not everyone dismisses him.
In my humble opinion, he is very likely to go down in history as one of the most disliked leaders in recent decades. Of course, not everybody will agree - I assume Cherie [another nasty piece] still loves him........
Robertj21a said:
I don't recall anyone suggesting that everyone dismisses him !
In my humble opinion, he is very likely to go down in history as one of the most disliked leaders in recent decades. Of course, not everybody will agree - I assume Cherie [another nasty piece] still loves him........
Despicable though he is, and untrustworthy as he has proved, I still reckon I was right to vote for him in '97. The tories were a shambles; there was infighting and internal wranglings with everyone vying for the top job or at least to have influence over whoever was voted in. (Well, at least they've turned away from such self indulgences.) In his first period he wasn't as bad as the broken tory party would have been. In my humble opinion, he is very likely to go down in history as one of the most disliked leaders in recent decades. Of course, not everybody will agree - I assume Cherie [another nasty piece] still loves him........
There was a massive swing to labour (was it a record?) and much of it was down to the self inflicted damage done by the MPs. The party would do well to remember this in their dealings with May. May isn't for turning. I seem to remember that Thatcher said something similar a day or two before she was pushed into a position where she had to retire.
Politics is normally quite volatile. The current situation with a less than stable leadership, with their biggest benefactor attacking May, and the brexit negotiations being reported to be in a parlous state, the party needs to consider the future.
Robertj21a said:
Derek Smith said:
Robertj21a said:
Good to see Mr Slimy trying to get back in the news. Just a shame that he's so deluded that he honestly believes that others respect his views.
A truly nasty piece of work.
.
It would appear that your views are not shared by Lord Harris, he whose activities caused someone to say that money polluted politics. A truly nasty piece of work.
.
He reckons that he'd rather have a labour government led by Blair than ta tory party with its present leader.
So whether Blair's views are respected or just his leadership qualities, not everyone dismisses him.
In my humble opinion, he is very likely to go down in history as one of the most disliked leaders in recent decades. Of course, not everybody will agree - I assume Cherie [another nasty piece] still loves him........
Views on May are ten a penny everywhere and few are positive since she cocked up the election. That's not to say she'll cock up brexit - we must wait and see about that.
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