Tony Blair is a national hero

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Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Camoradi said:
How does someone in his position and with his reputation not have the self awareness to think to themselves.

"Actually, I've done pretty well for myself. It would probably be best if I just keep out of this one and spend the rest of my days quietly enjoying life"

He just can't stop himself. It's got to be some sort of mental illness. I mean what possesses him to get up each morning, dress up in some godawful suit and drag himself down to a radio or TV studio just to confirm to the world that he is indeed one of the most narcissistic pillocks ever to draw breath.

Tony, we don't care what you think any more. Take up fishing or something, FFS
You've answered your own question - no self-awareness. He thinks he's right and we're all wrong. It's his duty to make sure he gives us his wisdom.

He goes to bed at night and sleeps very well thinking that he's done a good thing today.

A Winner Is You

24,983 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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I don't know how you heartless bds can sleep at night knowing your vote means Tony will never be able to fulfill his dream of becoming EU President.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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The bloke is a psychopath.

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Mothersruin said:
He goes to bed at night and sleeps very well thinking that he's done a good thing today.
Got to pull you up on this.

His face, over the years, has morphed into that of someone who seldom, if ever sleeps well. He might hang upside down from the rafters for a few hours, but he's not sleeping. Not after what he's done, or next to that.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
I don't know how you heartless bds can sleep at night knowing your vote means Tony will never be able to fulfill his dream of becoming EU President.
To be fair, I am happy for him to fyck if to Belgium and become a citizen there so he can still have his dream, we get rid he gets his dream it's a win win

R Mutt

5,892 posts

72 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Feel sorry for the guy really.

The left hate him for Iraq and Centrism
The right hate him for immigration

He didn't do anything too drastic, which is why he's so unpopular.

Personally he could've been OK if he didn't want everyone to work in the public sector.

CanAm

9,212 posts

272 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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poo at Paul's said:
I reckon you may be onto something there.

He was on telly earlier, and if you really concentrate, and focus on him and what he says, you can just about spot that he really is a massive
"As my dear old grandpappy always used to say - Never trust a man who's always smiling" :Hannibal Heyes.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Nickgnome said:
CaptainSlow said:
MX5Biologist said:
I'd go out on a limb and say I believe he did what needed to be done in March 2003.
Destabilise the whole region and cause the deaths of 100's of thousands of people?
He made the absolute gargantuan error of trusting our ‘ally’. The USA.
Saddam made the same mistake.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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This may have already been posted, anyway

Tony Blair was visiting a primary school and he visited one of the classes. They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asked the Prime Minister if he would like to lead the discussion on the word "tragedy".

So the illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a "tragedy".

One little boy stood up and offered: "If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playing in the field & a tractor runs over him and kills him, that would be a 'tragedy'".

"No," said Blair, "that would be an accident."

A little girl raised her hand: "If a school bus carrying fifty children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a Tragedy."

"I'm afraid not," explained the Prime Minister, "that's what we would call a great loss."

The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Tony searched the room.

"Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of Tragedy?"

Finally, at the back of the room, a small boy raised his hand...In a quiet voice he said: "If the Air plane carrying you and Mrs Blair was struck by a "friendly fire" missile & blown to smithereens, that would be a tragedy."

"Fantastic!" exclaimed Tony Blair. "That's right. And can you tell me why that would be tragedy?"

"Well," says the boy "it has to be a tragedy, because it certainly wouldn't be a great loss and it probably wouldn't be an accident either!"

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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R Mutt said:
Feel sorry for the guy really.

The left hate him for Iraq and Centrism
The right hate him for immigration

He didn't do anything too drastic, which is why he's so unpopular.

Personally he could've been OK if he didn't want everyone to work in the public sector.
He was pretty good at getting elected.

He came along at the right time also, after the conservatives had become rotten with allegations of sleaze and constant infighting over Europe (sound familiar)

I was certainly paying less tax under Blair and he was more pro business than the conservatives have been.

I never voted for him, but if labour ever get rid of Corbyn and get another blairite, they’ll win the next election easily.

In fact, I think Blair himself could still win a GE. I still don’t think we’ve seen the last of Blair in U.K. politics.





R Mutt

5,892 posts

72 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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El stovey said:
He was pretty good at getting elected.

He came along at the right time also, after the conservatives had become rotten with allegations of sleaze and constant infighting over Europe (sound familiar)

I was certainly paying less tax under Blair and he was more pro business than the conservatives have been.

I never voted for him, but if labour ever get rid of Corbyn and get another blairite, they’ll win the next election easily.

In fact, I think Blair himself could still win a GE. I still don’t think we’ve seen the last of Blair in U.K. politics.
There was talk of a comeback a few years ago as leader or at least behind the scenes in a new Centrist party. Wasn't so viable then but with support for Corbyn he might do better, not that he'd nick any of his votes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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El stovey said:
R Mutt said:
Feel sorry for the guy really.

The left hate him for Iraq and Centrism
The right hate him for immigration

He didn't do anything too drastic, which is why he's so unpopular.

Personally he could've been OK if he didn't want everyone to work in the public sector.
He was pretty good at getting elected.

He came along at the right time also, after the conservatives had become rotten with allegations of sleaze and constant infighting over Europe (sound familiar)

I was certainly paying less tax under Blair and he was more pro business than the conservatives have been.

I never voted for him, but if labour ever get rid of Corbyn and get another blairite, they’ll win the next election easily.

In fact, I think Blair himself could still win a GE. I still don’t think we’ve seen the last of Blair in U.K. politics.
I can’t think of any taxes that are now higher than they were, unless the increases were due to the policies pursued enacted by Blair and his cohorts.


djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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REALIST123 said:
I can’t think of any taxes that are now higher than they were, unless the increases were due to the policies pursued enacted by Blair and his cohorts.
Pension AA reduction, pension LTA reduction, introduction of Additional Rate, NI rate increase, Personal Allowance Taper, VAT rate.

I’m sure there are others.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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El stovey said:
I never voted for him, but if labour ever get rid of Corbyn and get another blairite, they’ll win the next election easily.

In fact, I think Blair himself could still win a GE. I still don’t think we’ve seen the last of Blair in U.K. politics.
But the Labour party want a leftwing leader, so no chance of another Blair.

The Tories wanted someone to the right so choose Boris.

Party members don't want moderates.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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REALIST123 said:
El stovey said:
R Mutt said:
Feel sorry for the guy really.

The left hate him for Iraq and Centrism
The right hate him for immigration

He didn't do anything too drastic, which is why he's so unpopular.

Personally he could've been OK if he didn't want everyone to work in the public sector.
He was pretty good at getting elected.

He came along at the right time also, after the conservatives had become rotten with allegations of sleaze and constant infighting over Europe (sound familiar)

I was certainly paying less tax under Blair and he was more pro business than the conservatives have been.

I never voted for him, but if labour ever get rid of Corbyn and get another blairite, they’ll win the next election easily.

In fact, I think Blair himself could still win a GE. I still don’t think we’ve seen the last of Blair in U.K. politics.
I can’t think of any taxes that are now higher than they were, unless the increases were due to the policies pursued enacted by Blair and his cohorts.
In the 2010 budget, described by PM David Cameron as an "emergency budget", Chancellor George Osborne announced that the standard rate of VAT would increase from 17.5% to 20% with effect from 4 January 2011.


Gargamel

14,993 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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djc206 said:
Pension AA reduction, pension LTA reduction, introduction of Additional Rate, NI rate increase, Personal Allowance Taper, VAT rate.

I’m sure there are others.
Fuel duty “escalator”
Insurance Policy Taxation
Aircraft Passenger Tax
Massive uplift in VED rates

I believe in total something 157 stealth taxes were brought in under Labour - worst of all though was the refusal to raise the threshold for the 40% band. During those years that tax band expanded in number enormously something like 1.5million more people started paying at 40% bracket.

Blair is certainly never going to make it back into UK politics, the trust is gone. It shows how low we have sunk, when people can genuinely look back at 1997 and say we had better politicians than now !



djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Gargamel said:
Fuel duty “escalator”
Insurance Policy Taxation
Aircraft Passenger Tax
Massive uplift in VED rates

I believe in total something 157 stealth taxes were brought in under Labour - worst of all though was the refusal to raise the threshold for the 40% band. During those years that tax band expanded in number enormously something like 1.5million more people started paying at 40% bracket.

Blair is certainly never going to make it back into UK politics, the trust is gone. It shows how low we have sunk, when people can genuinely look back at 1997 and say we had better politicians than now !
Mad isn’t it. Could we tempt the right Miliband brother to come back?

The Wookie

13,950 posts

228 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Camoradi said:
He reminds me of Les Mcqueen from the League of Gentlemen. A sad has been who never was
Amusingly poetic, given the origins of the thread, that Les Mcqueen turned out to be hugely popular in a fictional eastern european country biggrin

Stan the Bat

8,929 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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CanAm said:
poo at Paul's said:
"As my dear old grandpappy always used to say - Never trust a man who's always smiling" :Hannibal Heyes.
Jeez ,that was a long time ago. yikes

CanAm

9,212 posts

272 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
CanAm said:
poo at Paul's said:
"As my dear old grandpappy always used to say - Never trust a man who's always smiling" :Hannibal Heyes.
Jeez ,that was a long time ago. yikes
But still true. (And about time that series was repeated!)