The John Venables identity leak

[Welshbeef]

Getragdogleg said:

"they" are not free, Robert Thompson might be but Jon Venables is not free at the moment after he got caught with a laptop full of kiddy porn that he was trying to swop with other like minded individuals.

Both were freed. He broke his bail conditions in frankly a very serious and lets be frank here maybe what he broke his bail conditions is totally linked to why they took James (Im sure not everything has been released to the public domain) I'd say its very likely other things happened before they beat him with Bricks and 2x2 lengths of wood before leaving him for dead half over a railway track.

[Pesty]

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

SOMETHING

something, what like breaking a window with a football? no

something like stealing a mars bar from a corner shop? no

something like getting in a fight because a boy called you a spaz? no

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

[Welshbeef]

Pesty said:

SOMETHING

something, what like breaking a window with a football? no

something like stealing a mars bar from a corner shop? no

something like getting in a fight because a boy called you a spaz? no

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

+1000.

[Baldy881]

Pesty said:

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

SOMETHING

something, what like breaking a window with a football? no

something like stealing a mars bar from a corner shop? no

something like getting in a fight because a boy called you a spaz? no

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

Wiki said:

It was later revealed by one of the boys that they were planning to find a child to abduct, lead him to the busy road alongside the mall, and push him into the path of oncoming traffic

Yeh, something...

[DAVEVO9]

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

YES!

With extreme prejudice

[y2blade]

Amirhussain said:

David87 said:

Hopefully someone will go and kick the st out of him.

Why? Unless it was someone like close family, but some random person, it's none of their business.

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

Yes.

[RVVUNM]

Welshbeef said:

Pesty said:

SOMETHING

something, what like breaking a window with a football? no

something like stealing a mars bar from a corner shop? no

something like getting in a fight because a boy called you a spaz? no

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

+1000.

+1

[skwdenyer]

Pesty said:

SOMETHING

something, what like breaking a window with a football? no

something like stealing a mars bar from a corner shop? no

something like getting in a fight because a boy called you a spaz? no

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

I hope you don't have a child who commits a serious crime. I don't imagine you would willingly hand her/him over for lifetime incarceration.

The experience of other countries suggests that just moving-on and trying to get the children to grow up into decent people works better.

At 10 the fault is still mainly with the parents. It can still be fixed. In this case it wasn't fixed, and the ridiculous British obsession with other people's business means that nobody will ever move on from it, sadly.

[StottyZr]

skwdenyer said:

I hope you don't have a child who commits a serious crime. I don't imagine you would willingly hand her/him over for lifetime incarceration.

I'd be more than willing. I'd be disgusted, embarrassed and very angry at my child for doing what they did. What I wouldn't do is stand shouting "it wasn't their fault" when it was.

Similarly my mother has always made it very clear to me, if I do something very bad she will shop me in in a heartbeat. Because its the right thing to do.

[Bluebarge]

Pesty said:

kidnapping, torturing and murdering a little boy? Yes. whole heartedly yes. at ten you know that is wrong, to even consider and go through with it means you have something wrong with you and do not deserve to breath the air.

There is also something wrong with a person who describes those acts as 'something'

Sorry, but this is Daily Wail bks. No matter what the crime, he's been through the judicial process for it, and served his sentence. He does not now deserve vigilante justice at the hands of some keyboard warriors who are (luckily not seriously) advocating the commission of a criminal act not too far removed from the original crime. Bunch of sadsters the lot of you.

[pork911]

regardless of the punishment / rehabilitation their names and pictures should never have been released in the first place

[Oakey]

StottyZr said:

I'd be more than willing. I'd be disgusted, embarrassed and very angry at my child for doing what they did. What I wouldn't do is stand shouting "it wasn't their fault" when it was.

Similarly my mother has always made it very clear to me, if I do something very bad she will shop me in in a heartbeat. Because its the right thing to do.

Yeah, aren't you the lunatic who said he'd happily execute his 10yr old child if they'd done it?

[RSoovy4]

On a serious (who me?) note, I'd urge any PHers tempted to distribute the image not to. Just don't go there.

I can see there will be severe consequences for those who do.

It's out there now - please PHers don't be tempted to forward it further. I expect it will end very badly for anyone who does (Contempt of Court etc - this could very easily mean jail time).

I suspect the woman who initiated it is going to get a lengthy stretch.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

David87 said:

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

Yes.

David87, were you born in 87? If so, that makes you 25/26, easily mistakable for a 30 yr old.

Be a laugh if its your name and pic that's get posted, by someone you've annoyed. An ex girlfriend or soemone at work. See if you're laughing then when someone kicks 7 bells out of you.

[Grenoble]

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

Depends if they have shown if they can rehabilitate. Or in this case, understand what society norms are.

[pork911]

DAVEVO9 said:

Amirhussain said:

Should a 30 years old man be judged for something he did when he was a 10 years old kid?

YES!

With extreme prejudice

would you consider anything wrong with a 10 year old child being in a sexual relationship with an adult?

if (as i hope you do) you might want to re-consider your view of criminal responsibility for a positive act as opposed to an ability to consent

[anonymous-user]

What's the fuss, he keeps having to have his identity changed as HE is the one continually releasing it to people.

Locked up for murdering and torturing a 2 year old and then again for child pornography. Some people just can't be fixed.

[ILoveMondeo]

TonyTony said:

Perfect time if you have a serious grudge with somebody, plaster there face on the internet saying its him!

This is venables



Think he lives in america now..

[Oakey]

Which one was supposed to be the more disturbed? Wasn't it Thompson? Because if so it's surprising he's the one that's kept his nose clean (so far).

[pork911]

RSoovy4 said:

On a serious (who me?) note, I'd urge any PHers tempted to distribute the image not to. Just don't go there.

I can see there will be severe consequences for those who do.

It's out there now - please PHers don't be tempted to forward it further. I expect it will end very badly for anyone who does (Contempt of Court etc - this could very easily mean jail time).

I suspect the woman who initiated it is going to get a lengthy stretch.

anyone who does deserves the full extent

this isn't some 'sleb gossip for teh twitter age