The John Venables identity leak

[Gwagon111]

I dislike Venables, with a passion, but outing the guy on Facebook was not a very good idea. She will get a worse sentence than he did.

[RSoovy4]

pork911 said:

RSoovy4 said:

On a serious (who me?) note, I'd urge any PHers tempted to distribute the image not to. Just don't go there.

I can see there will be severe consequences for those who do.

It's out there now - please PHers don't be tempted to forward it further. I expect it will end very badly for anyone who does (Contempt of Court etc - this could very easily mean jail time).

I suspect the woman who initiated it is going to get a lengthy stretch.

anyone who does deserves the full extent

this isn't some 'sleb gossip for teh twitter age

Personally I wouldn't be upset if he got offed as a result of this, but my worry is that someone unlucky enough to look like him might.

[boxst]

Wow, they were easy to find. Forums outside of the UK are not shy about posting the images alongside what they would like to do to him.

[Pesty]

Bluebarge said:

Sorry, but this is Daily Wail bks. No matter what the crime, he's been through the judicial process for it, and served his sentence. He does not now deserve vigilante justice at the hands of some keyboard warriors who are (luckily not seriously) advocating the commission of a criminal act not too far removed from the original crime. Bunch of sadsters the lot of you.

no he does not deserve vigilante justice, I would never advocate that.

He should have been locked away for good from the start not this guardianista bks

skwdenyer said:

I hope you don't have a child who commits a serious crime. I don't imagine you would willingly hand her/him over for lifetime incarceration.

The experience of other countries suggests that just moving-on and trying to get the children to grow up into decent people works better.

At 10 the fault is still mainly with the parents. It can still be fixed. In this case it wasn't fixed, and the ridiculous British obsession with other people's business means that nobody will ever move on from it, sadly.

I hope you dont have a child murdered by some mental freaks. I don't image you would willingly be happy for them to be put with decent people as a cure.

Edited by Pesty on Friday 15th February 12:06

[DAVEVO9]

pork911 said:

would you consider anything wrong with a 10 year old child being in a sexual relationship with an adult?

if (as i hope you do) you might want to re-consider your view of criminal responsibility for a positive act as opposed to an ability to consent

No thanks.

I would of put the little down at 10.

Pure fking evil! Just because he was 10 makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Eye for an eye me, some little scumbag did that to a member of my family I'd want them dead straight off, with no regrets.

[pork911]

DAVEVO9 said:

pork911 said:

would you consider anything wrong with a 10 year old child being in a sexual relationship with an adult?

if (as i hope you do) you might want to re-consider your view of criminal responsibility for a positive act as opposed to an ability to consent

No thanks.

I would of put the little down at 10.

Pure fking evil! Just because he was 10 makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Eye for an eye me, some little scumbag did that to a member of my family I'd want them dead straight off, with no regrets.

and the ability to consent?

[Bluebarge]

DAVEVO9 said:

No thanks.

I would of put the little down at 10.

Pure fking evil! Just because he was 10 makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Eye for an eye me, some little scumbag did that to a member of my family I'd want them dead straight off, with no regrets.

So you would happily murder a child. Well done you.

[DAVEVO9]

Bluebarge said:

So you would happily murder a child. Well done you.

I don't see it as a child, just vermin, look what it turned into!

[TwigtheWonderkid]

DAVEVO9 said:

Eye for an eye

Golden rule of life No 1. When someone starts quoting from the bible, it's time to stop listening to what they have to say.

[oyster]

Terminator X said:

David87 said:

Hopefully someone will go and kick the st out of him.

Agreed, its a fking disgrace that taxpayers money was used to protect them

TX.

I think the Taliban are recruiting - you'd fit right in.

[DAVEVO9]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Golden rule of life No 1. When someone starts quoting from the bible, it's time to stop listening to what they have to say.

Big mistake on my part that one then.

You couldn't get anyone more anti religious than me.

It was just the first thing that came to mind.

[Oakey]

DAVEVO9 said:

I don't see it as a child, just vermin, look what it turned into!

What would you do for an encore? Kick ten bells out of Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall so you can add 'pensioners' to the list of people you'd indiscriminately murder?

[oyster]

Bluebarge said:

DAVEVO9 said:

No thanks.

I would of put the little down at 10.

Pure fking evil! Just because he was 10 makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Eye for an eye me, some little scumbag did that to a member of my family I'd want them dead straight off, with no regrets.

So you would happily murder a child. Well done you.

And he's be in jail for life leaving the rest of his family without a dad. I don't think he's thought it through properly.

[pork911]

pork911 said:

DAVEVO9 said:

pork911 said:

would you consider anything wrong with a 10 year old child being in a sexual relationship with an adult?

if (as i hope you do) you might want to re-consider your view of criminal responsibility for a positive act as opposed to an ability to consent

No thanks.

I would of put the little down at 10.

Pure fking evil! Just because he was 10 makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Eye for an eye me, some little scumbag did that to a member of my family I'd want them dead straight off, with no regrets.

and the ability to consent?

DAVE09 - is this an inconvenient question?

[Disastrous]

StottyZr said:

skwdenyer said:

I hope you don't have a child who commits a serious crime. I don't imagine you would willingly hand her/him over for lifetime incarceration.

I'd be more than willing. I'd be disgusted, embarrassed and very angry at my child for doing what they did. What I wouldn't do is stand shouting "it wasn't their fault" when it was.

Similarly my mother has always made it very clear to me, if I do something very bad she will shop me in in a heartbeat. Because its the right thing to do.

Likewise. The whole 'blood thicker than water' routine just winds me right up.

[DAVEVO9]

oyster said:

And he's be in jail for life leaving the rest of his family without a dad. I don't think he's thought it through properly.

I have thought it through very well thanks.

Of course I couldn't kill the scum in today's laws? I'm saying my views on what I'd like to do.

Thought that was obvious

[pork911]

DAVEVO9 said:

oyster said:

And he's be in jail for life leaving the rest of his family without a dad. I don't think he's thought it through properly.

I have thought it through very well thanks.

Of course I couldn't kill the scum in today's laws? I'm saying my views on what I'd like to do.

Thought that was obvious

you'd like to kill kids? erm, okay

now if you could just give some thought to my question above it would be most appreciated

[DAVEVO9]

pork911 said:

now if you could just give some thought to my question above it would be most appreciated

Go and patronise someone else, you asked the same question on the other bulger thread.

[RealSquirrels]

BURN HIM! BURN HIM! BURN HIM!

i do love a good beheading but you can't beat being roasted alive. ooo it makes me crave pork crackling i tell you.

[Kateg28]

Welshbeef said:

We will never know if any other abuse was carried out or any other details of what the police found at the crime scene

Getragdogleg said:

Having read the interview transcripts and learnt what Venables and Thompson did to the little boy I can safely say I would like both of them to be removed from existance.

Whilst I haven't read the transcripts I know someone who was involved in the prosecution, they haven't said anything directly but they have alluded to some of what they know and I found it deeply disturbing.
There certainly was abuse.
Whilst the two boys certainly carry guilt, at that age they may know what is wrong but a lot of the responsibility must rest with the parenting they received.