Gay liaisons set to unhinge the Pope
Discussion
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-r...
Anyone know if La Republica is a red-top?
Anyone know if La Republica is a red-top?
Edited by Derek Smith on Thursday 21st February 21:27
Derek Smith said:
Just had to check the link in case it was a guardian typo, but it's just you being too thick to copy and paste or just copy 'La Repubblica'.It's a broadsheet, at least size wise.
Edited by Pothole on Thursday 21st February 22:08
Where I used to live both the protestant and catholic vicars were gay, but the catholic one had a live-in friend. He was, I was told, a good vicar and worked hard in the community. I met him quite a few times and he was always very pleasant. Most of the locals didn't seem to care about either. So why all the fuss?
Posters have gone on about the 10 commandments (pedant mode: more than 10 I know) but there's nothing there about buggering being banned. It just causes them so many problems. It's a funny old world.
I expect that these blokes, locked up emotionally, would need some form of outlet. For the church I would have thought them going to gay clubs is better than knocking off the wives int he congregation. And there's enough of that going on.
I read once that there was an argument about people who were sterilised, whether they could have sex, with women, without committing a mortal sin. I think it revolved around whether 'seed' could be spilled. If not then it was OK and you could even wear a condom. I mean, you don't know where she's been, do you. That was under the last pope. How silly.
Posters have gone on about the 10 commandments (pedant mode: more than 10 I know) but there's nothing there about buggering being banned. It just causes them so many problems. It's a funny old world.
I expect that these blokes, locked up emotionally, would need some form of outlet. For the church I would have thought them going to gay clubs is better than knocking off the wives int he congregation. And there's enough of that going on.
I read once that there was an argument about people who were sterilised, whether they could have sex, with women, without committing a mortal sin. I think it revolved around whether 'seed' could be spilled. If not then it was OK and you could even wear a condom. I mean, you don't know where she's been, do you. That was under the last pope. How silly.
Derek Smith said:
Where I used to live both the protestant and catholic vicars were gay, but the catholic one had a live-in friend. He was, I was told, a good vicar and worked hard in the community. I met him quite a few times and he was always very pleasant. Most of the locals didn't seem to care about either. So why all the fuss?
Posters have gone on about the 10 commandments (pedant mode: more than 10 I know) but there's nothing there about buggering being banned. It just causes them so many problems. It's a funny old world.
I expect that these blokes, locked up emotionally, would need some form of outlet. For the church I would have thought them going to gay clubs is better than knocking off the wives int he congregation. And there's enough of that going on.
I read once that there was an argument about people who were sterilised, whether they could have sex, with women, without committing a mortal sin. I think it revolved around whether 'seed' could be spilled. If not then it was OK and you could even wear a condom. I mean, you don't know where she's been, do you. That was under the last pope. How silly.
Where did you live which had a Catholic vicar, then?Posters have gone on about the 10 commandments (pedant mode: more than 10 I know) but there's nothing there about buggering being banned. It just causes them so many problems. It's a funny old world.
I expect that these blokes, locked up emotionally, would need some form of outlet. For the church I would have thought them going to gay clubs is better than knocking off the wives int he congregation. And there's enough of that going on.
I read once that there was an argument about people who were sterilised, whether they could have sex, with women, without committing a mortal sin. I think it revolved around whether 'seed' could be spilled. If not then it was OK and you could even wear a condom. I mean, you don't know where she's been, do you. That was under the last pope. How silly.
Vicar does not just refer to protestantism. The pope is the vicar of christ: vicarius christi, and there is a position of vicar lower down in the catholic church. Not au fait with what he does though but they wear a uniform.
I'm not sure if the proper terminology can be used in the way I did but I'm not really sure I'm bothered.
I'm not sure if the proper terminology can be used in the way I did but I'm not really sure I'm bothered.
It might not be a commandment "Thou shalt not stabbeth the chocolate starfish", but it's made quite clear in the Old Testament that the psychotic sand-diety is a touch homophobic when he annihilates the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
AnimalMkIV said:
It might not be a commandment "Thou shalt not stabbeth the chocolate starfish", but it's made quite clear in the Old Testament that the psychotic sand-diety is a touch homophobic when he annihilates the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
But it also says in the OT to stone adulterers, and to kill disrespectful children. You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
AnimalMkIV said:
It might not be a commandment "Thou shalt not stabbeth the chocolate starfish", but it's made quite clear in the Old Testament that the psychotic sand-diety is a touch homophobic when he annihilates the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
Out of all the weird and wonderful restrictions placed on one's choice of actions by Leviticus, it seems odd that the one that seems to concern the pope most of all is the one indulged in by his staff.You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
I don't think there's any doubt that this particular corporation has enabled and suppressed reporting of widespread and systematic paedophilia. Were it to be a multinational who overtly lives for profit we would be welcoling its demise.
I'm not sure why it promoting the services of an imaginary friend should protect it from the justifiable outrage and destruction it should be 'victim' of?
I'm not sure why it promoting the services of an imaginary friend should protect it from the justifiable outrage and destruction it should be 'victim' of?
Derek Smith said:
I read once that there was an argument about people who were sterilised, whether they could have sex, with women, without committing a mortal sin. I think it revolved around whether 'seed' could be spilled. If not then it was OK and you could even wear a condom. I mean, you don't know where she's been, do you. That was under the last pope. How silly.
In my long, but relatively limited, experience of the catholic church, it really does seem that they simply justify one hypocrisy with another rule/commandment, and vice-versa. I guess like any plutocratic dictatorship, one rule for them, one for another suits those at the top just fine.Derek Smith said:
Vicar does not just refer to protestantism. The pope is the vicar of christ: vicarius christi, and there is a position of vicar lower down in the catholic church. Not au fait with what he does though but they wear a uniform.
I'm not sure if the proper terminology can be used in the way I did but I'm not really sure I'm bothered.
Simple question required simple answer. I'm fully aware of the post of Vicar (General, usually) in the Catholic Church. You're clearly not. Not the first time you've shown yourself to be ignorant about subjects you post negatively on. A simple correction and admission of ignorance would have been sufficient.I'm not sure if the proper terminology can be used in the way I did but I'm not really sure I'm bothered.
Now tell me where exactly you encountered this Catholic vicar, or did you actually mean priest?
TheHeretic said:
AnimalMkIV said:
It might not be a commandment "Thou shalt not stabbeth the chocolate starfish", but it's made quite clear in the Old Testament that the psychotic sand-diety is a touch homophobic when he annihilates the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
But it also says in the OT to stone adulterers, and to kill disrespectful children. You also have "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Seeing as this is the same god of love and understanding that the Pope and his minions are in the thrall of, you could say there is something hypocritical about it, but then again, the whole catholic institution is rotten.
Pothole said:
Simple question required simple answer. I'm fully aware of the post of Vicar (General, usually) in the Catholic Church. You're clearly not. Not the first time you've shown yourself to be ignorant about subjects you post negatively on. A simple correction and admission of ignorance would have been sufficient.
Now tell me where exactly you encountered this Catholic vicar, or did you actually mean priest?
No. Now tell me where exactly you encountered this Catholic vicar, or did you actually mean priest?
I left the location out because I respect the chap and don't want him identified.
Let's ignore one-anothers' posts. I feel certain that it will be best for all concerned. My definition of ignorant includes calling other people ignorant.
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