Gay liaisons set to unhinge the Pope

[TheHeretic]

Derek Smith said:

Popes no longer profess to believe in Adam and Eve although the Garden of Eden still has a fair bit of support.

So where does original sin come from? If Jesus died for our sins, why do we still have original sin? What was the scapegoat sacrifice that wasn't for, exactly?

[Derek Smith]

TheHeretic said:

Derek Smith said:

Popes no longer profess to believe in Adam and Eve although the Garden of Eden still has a fair bit of support.

So where does original sin come from? If Jesus died for our sins, why do we still have original sin? What was the scapegoat sacrifice that wasn't for, exactly?

Isn't the original sin the search for knowledge? Education undermines superstition.

Historically the church has limited the spread of education amongst the plebs. The only form of study was the study of the bible so therefore there was little chance of it being overturned. Indeed, don't forget it was a mortal sin to read a copy of the bible in English for many years.

King James' leap into print was a major slap in the face for the pope. It upset him. Jimmy was highly religious so there is a certain irony in the fact that his big plan to convert the population to protestantism is largely responsible for the rise of atheism. Once the plebs, whom they were milking for tithes, started to realise what the bible actually said there was an inexorable move towards doubt.

[TheHeretic]

LA Cardinal thinks himself a scapegoat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283497/Ca...

[Pothole]

Pints said:

TheFive said:

Sorry, but no. Check out the Roman Catholic catechism - The official guide to the Roman Catholic belief system and not open to negotiation or any kind of 'interpretation' - It's all clear as day:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

Or, here for the abridged version:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/docum...

Old testament is a completely valid text I'm afraid. Genesis, the great flood, original sin, all of it. OT hasn't been superseded by NT at all, you've just made that bit up for yourself.

As you probably know, Catholicism doesn't work like that - You're either in or you're out. And if you're out, then be damned to a fiery hell for all eternity. Sorry if I've messed up anybody's plans for after they die.

Edited by TheFive on Friday 22 February 20:21

Hold on. We're talking about Christianity the one minute and then applying Catholic catechisms the next. The whole of Christendom is most certainly not defined by Catholicism and its beliefs.

Except the thread title mentions the head of the Catholic church and the story linked to in the OP is also about Catholic clergy.

[anonymous-user]

Nothing to see here.....obviously.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien steps down as Archbishop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

[shakotan]

djstevec said:

Nothing to see here.....obviously.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien steps down as Archbishop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

"That's it, we're down to the last Pringle, I quit!"

[Redlake27]

djstevec said:

Nothing to see here.....obviously.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien steps down as Archbishop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

I love the fact he has a 'Bigot of the Year' Award........oh, the irony....

[Chimune]

Stepping down becuase you are guilty of something old, seems pretty popular at the mo !

[Justices]

shakotan said:

"That's it, we're down to the last Pringle, I quit!"

Not even. Half a pringle! Clearly this is a sign that that popping has to stop..

[tim0409]

shakotan said:

djstevec said:

Nothing to see here.....obviously.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien steps down as Archbishop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

"That's it, we're down to the last Pringle, I quit!"

My mum has a picture of me with Jimmy Saville at a charity event. She also has a picture of me when I was commissioned a Eucharistic minister by Cardinal O'Brian (then archbishop). Should I be worried?

[Derek Smith]

tim0409 said:

My mum has a picture of me with Jimmy Saville at a charity event. She also has a picture of me when I was commissioned a Eucharistic minister by Cardinal O'Brian (then archbishop). Should I be worried?

Depends on whether you feel able to sue anyone or not.

[TooLateForAName]

shakotan said:

djstevec said:

Nothing to see here.....obviously.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien steps down as Archbishop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

"That's it, we're down to the last Pringle, I quit!"

Not sure if quit or sacked...

the Ex-Cardinal said:

Approaching the age of 75 and at times in indifferent health, I tendered my resignation as archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh to Pope Benedict XVI some months ago. I was happy to know that he accepted my resignation "nunc pro tunc" – (now – but to take effect later) on 13 November 2012. The Holy Father has now decided that my resignation will take effect today, 25 February 2013

[tim0409]

Derek Smith said:

tim0409 said:

My mum has a picture of me with Jimmy Saville at a charity event. She also has a picture of me when I was commissioned a Eucharistic minister by Cardinal O'Brian (then archbishop). Should I be worried?

Depends on whether you feel able to sue anyone or not.

I should have put a smile at the end of my post - it is a source of amusement in our family at the moment that I seem to be the common denominator

[thehawk]

tim0409 said:

My mum has a picture of me with Jimmy Saville at a charity event. She also has a picture of me when I was commissioned a Eucharistic minister by Cardinal O'Brian (then archbishop). Should I be worried?

Did they high five each other?

[FourWheelDrift]

tim0409 said:

My mum has a picture of me with Jimmy Saville at a charity event. She also has a picture of me when I was commissioned a Eucharistic minister by Cardinal O'Brian (then archbishop). Should I be worried?

Which one of the two blurred out kids are you?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ca...

[Ozzie Osmond]

FourWheelDrift said: