North Korea - how serious should we take them?

[Pan Pan Pan]

With small rocket idiot, and big rocket idiot, still carrying on the willy waving contest the world has become a bit more of an unstable place, but what can anyone do with a person who had member/s of his own family killed to `shock the world'
Interesting times lay ahead or perhaps more worryingly. they don't.

[superlightr]

Pan Pan Pan said:

With small rocket idiot, and big rocket idiot, still carrying on the willy waving contest the world has become a bit more of an unstable place, but what can anyone do with a person who had member/s of his own family killed to `shock the world'
Interesting times lay ahead or perhaps more worryingly. they don't.

I will avidly keep checking your posts to see if /when you have change you PH name to a more serious call sign - that will be my early warning to then run to them hills.

[skwdenyer]

Pan Pan Pan said:

With small rocket idiot, and big rocket idiot, still carrying on the willy waving contest the world has become a bit more of an unstable place, but what can anyone do with a person who had member/s of his own family killed to `shock the world'
Interesting times lay ahead or perhaps more worryingly. they don't.

At least KJU acted consistently - he reportedly had other people killed, too (family or not).

Extrajudicial killings (if they were) are hardly uncommon; they are (with varying degrees of acknowledgement) perpetrated by such disparate regimes as the USA (>2500 by drone, never mind anything else), Turkey (our new soon-to-be-partner in the EU), Israel (our partner in all sorts), as well as the more obvious suspects (Philippines, Russia, El Salvador, Honduras, Iraq, etc.).

It is a little hypocritical of us to single out KJU on this allegation.

[Robertj21a]

skwdenyer said:

At least KJU acted consistently - he reportedly had other people killed, too (family or not).

Extrajudicial killings (if they were) are hardly uncommon; they are (with varying degrees of acknowledgement) perpetrated by such disparate regimes as the USA (>2500 by drone, never mind anything else), Turkey (our new soon-to-be-partner in the EU), Israel (our partner in all sorts), as well as the more obvious suspects (Philippines, Russia, El Salvador, Honduras, Iraq, etc.).

It is a little hypocritical of us to single out KJU on this allegation.

I doubt that anyone is going to be '......our new soon-to-be partner in the EU....' - partly because Turkey will probably never join, but primarily because we won't be in the EU ourselves.

[gadgetmac]

I'm flabberghasted to discover that, as well as North Korea, one of the eight nations NOT to ratify the UN's Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty is the USA.

166 Countries have including the UK.

[skwdenyer]

gadgetmac said:

I'm flabberghasted to discover that, as well as North Korea, one of the eight nations NOT to ratify the UN's Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty is the USA.

166 Countries have including the UK.

(Un)surprising, isn't it?

[gadgetmac]

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

[johnxjsc1985]

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

ah Politicians to hate them is to hate them.
The scourge of modern life. Better off without them all of them

[dudleybloke]

johnxjsc1985 said:

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

ah Politicians to hate them is to hate them.
The scourge of modern life. Better off without them all of them

And a sick twist of fate is if the button ever gets pressed the underground bunkers will be full of politicians.

[Cobnapint]

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

It's probably due to the phrasing of the test ban. I guess it bans ALL testing and may even prevent computer simulation testing in a lab - which is what the US still does.

[anonymous-user]

dudleybloke said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

ah Politicians to hate them is to hate them.
The scourge of modern life. Better off without them all of them

And a sick twist of fate is if the button ever gets pressed the underground bunkers will be full of politicians.

That's actually fantastic, who would want to survive the aftermath of a proper nuclear war?

Imagine coming out of your bunker to a world of nothingness and not having the skills to survive it. No thanks, that's not a nice way to die.

[PhillipM]

I reckon a lot of people might like to survive a nuclear war - especially if they can manage until point where the politicians responsible for it come out of their bunkers, so they can have a discussion with them about dental plans.

[Abbott]

jsf said:

dudleybloke said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

ah Politicians to hate them is to hate them.
The scourge of modern life. Better off without them all of them

And a sick twist of fate is if the button ever gets pressed the underground bunkers will be full of politicians.

That's actually fantastic, who would want to survive the aftermath of a proper nuclear war?

Imagine coming out of your bunker to a world of nothingness and not having the skills to survive it. No thanks, that's not a nice way to die.

Remember this classic bit of TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdTkNz2KgcI

[cuprabob]

Abbott said:

jsf said:

dudleybloke said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

gadgetmac said:

So the US go to the UN to get them to denounce the North Koreans testing nukes whilst simultaneously refusing to sign a UN global test ban treaty themselves...along with all the usual culprits (ie Israel, Pakistan etc)

LOL

ah Politicians to hate them is to hate them.
The scourge of modern life. Better off without them all of them

And a sick twist of fate is if the button ever gets pressed the underground bunkers will be full of politicians.

That's actually fantastic, who would want to survive the aftermath of a proper nuclear war?

Imagine coming out of your bunker to a world of nothingness and not having the skills to survive it. No thanks, that's not a nice way to die.

Remember this classic bit of TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdTkNz2KgcI

You can't imagine the current PM doing that

I did like Sarah Greene

[Wait Here Until Green Light Shows]

The thing is, does anyone actually have the nuclear weaponry to cause massive destruction these days?
Sure there's probably the ability to wipe out cities, but the US doesn't have the weapon silo's like it did during the cold war?
I doubt Russia does either.

[Halmyre]

The US Navy alone has 14 subs times 24 missiles per sub times 14 warheads per missile = 4704 warheads. How much mayhem do you wish to cause? Although the various limitations treaties cuts the number deployable to only a few hundred.

[superkartracer]

Yeah , and each of those packed with 14/12/8 ( who knows ) warheads each around x30 Hiroshima's ( but they limit the warheads (which is prob a lie )) .

So one sub could wipe the UK off the face of the earth quite easy ( max missiles and warheads , about 10000 Hiroshima's ( rough guess depending on dial-a-yield and what other secret crap is crammed in there ) , scary eh .

Edited by superkartracer on Wednesday 27th September 09:51

[Register1]

Yipper said:

Is this nonsense still dragging on.

The chance of war with NK is zero. This is all political theatre.

NK is basically part of China and is thus uninvadable.

You have no idea how far from the reality you really are.

Please do some modern day research, and not write what you just think.

[SpeckledJim]

Register1 said:

Yipper said:

Is this nonsense still dragging on.

The chance of war with NK is zero. This is all political theatre.

NK is basically part of China and is thus uninvadable.

You have no idea how far from the reality you really are.

Please do some modern day research, and not write what you just think.

Reasons PH really needs an 'ignore' function:

• Yipper

[johnxjsc1985]

I'd say we are as close to a Nuclear war as we have been for decades and it shouldn't be under estimated how far the two "leaders" are willing to go to protect their Ego's.