North Korea - how serious should we take them?
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Stand by for a dialling back of rhetoric?
"North Korea stands proud in front of Western aggressors and their puppet state in the South. Such reactions from their military shows they fear the ground on which we tread. We stand ready and able to crush them", etc... "The scaling up of puny missile defences in the USA are a recognition of their weakness"
"North Korea stands proud in front of Western aggressors and their puppet state in the South. Such reactions from their military shows they fear the ground on which we tread. We stand ready and able to crush them", etc... "The scaling up of puny missile defences in the USA are a recognition of their weakness"
Grenoble said:
Stand by for a dialling back of rhetoric?
"North Korea stands proud in front of Western aggressors and their puppet state in the South. Such reactions from their military shows they fear the ground on which we tread. We stand ready and able to crush them", etc... "The scaling up of puny missile defences in the USA are a recognition of their weakness"
Definitely sounds like they're backing down now?"North Korea stands proud in front of Western aggressors and their puppet state in the South. Such reactions from their military shows they fear the ground on which we tread. We stand ready and able to crush them", etc... "The scaling up of puny missile defences in the USA are a recognition of their weakness"
speedy_thrills said:
Cowards.
The UN remind me of Father Ted episode, The Passion of St Tibulus. Careful now. All they ever seem to do when the solids are flying around in the big bad world.BBC said:
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon says current North Korea crisis has "gone too far" and urges negotiations.
Too far? It's just getting interesting.
.jmorgan said:
Wonder if this was all bluster to get some nukes in the arsenal and keep them, or just to justify the military expense. Then laud the event as the west went back to the south alike the pig dogs that they are before the glorious leaders onslaught?
The sad thing is I'm not entirely sure who you are talking aboutKiller2005 said:
Do we need to pay attention to today's news regarding the closure of the Kaesong complex? Since the recent escalations various reporters have said that this would be the indicator of any further action from NK.
its certainly a worry- up til now its all been words, but they seem to be taking action. What was the initial spark that started this tension? Did something happen south of the border to spook them?
Killer2005 said:
Do we need to pay attention to today's news regarding the closure of the Kaesong complex? Since the recent escalations various reporters have said that this would be the indicator of any further action from NK.
Not really, it just means they're running out of ideas. Pie boys' just a little pumped up at the moment after personally witnessing his ever-clapping armed forces fire lots of unguided rockets at an offshore lump of rock, and partake in a re-run of the Saving Private Ryan opening sequence but with hovercrafts instead of landing craft, and without MG42 rounds flying in the opposite direction. He thinks he's invincible at the moment, it'll wear off.Cobnapint said:
.. He thinks he's invincible at the moment, it'll wear off.
Like so - 38 second videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXW02XmBGQw
200bhp said:
So, assuming that another nation or group of nations decide to take action against NK, what course is that likely to take?
Cruise missiles and targeted bombing of key installations cutting off power, fuel and munitions to the armed forces and severing the control structure for the air defence network, same time a mass propaganda campaign kicking off. Wild Weasel raids continuing to draw AA radar into engaging with strikes continuing against military targets and CAS being used to neutralise any massing of forces near the border that occur. Land forces fighting and falling back. Naval Forces mostly engaged in the launching of cruise missiles and intercepting of resuplys.Casualty rate on coalition aircraft would be higher than in Desert Storm but would bring NK to its knees within weeks. The major downside would be the damage that NK could cause to its near neighbours within that time frame both from missile attacks (Japan and SK I fear would get splattered with Chemical weapons) and Seoul is within 40KM of the border so would likely be shelled in the initial thrust south made by the KPA. On the ground expect big casualty numbers mostly civilian and probably huge refugee problems on both sides of the border.
Lets not think for one second that a war there would be a good idea but it would stop a mad man from getting the power he wants from having a handful of ICBM's.
I've been up since about 6am on a massive DRPK internet binge, some fascinating stuff out there.
http://freekorea.us/ (very detailed blog, opinion, source compilations, some great google earth analysis)
http://www.nknews.org/ (easy reading western news site)
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/ (heavier reading)
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.ph... (google earth analysis of military positions)
and my all-time favourite
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/
eagerly awaiting fatboy's next move!
http://freekorea.us/ (very detailed blog, opinion, source compilations, some great google earth analysis)
http://www.nknews.org/ (easy reading western news site)
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/ (heavier reading)
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.ph... (google earth analysis of military positions)
and my all-time favourite
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/
eagerly awaiting fatboy's next move!
IanMorewood said:
200bhp said:
So, assuming that another nation or group of nations decide to take action against NK, what course is that likely to take?
Cruise missiles and targeted bombing of key installations cutting off power, fuel and munitions to the armed forces and severing the control structure for the air defence network, same time a mass propaganda campaign kicking off. Wild Weasel raids continuing to draw AA radar into engaging with strikes continuing against military targets and CAS being used to neutralise any massing of forces near the border that occur. Land forces fighting and falling back. Naval Forces mostly engaged in the launching of cruise missiles and intercepting of resuplys.Casualty rate on coalition aircraft would be higher than in Desert Storm but would bring NK to its knees within weeks. The major downside would be the damage that NK could cause to its near neighbours within that time frame both from missile attacks (Japan and SK I fear would get splattered with Chemical weapons) and Seoul is within 40KM of the border so would likely be shelled in the initial thrust south made by the KPA. On the ground expect big casualty numbers mostly civilian and probably huge refugee problems on both sides of the border.
Lets not think for one second that a war there would be a good idea but it would stop a mad man from getting the power he wants from having a handful of ICBM's.
Good read this
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