North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Cobnapint said:
The last two paragraphs of Sky's piece concern me more than anything else. The new SK president supposedly preventing the US fully commissioning their anti-missile system so he can appease China.
And the fact that China, who says it doesn't want war on the peninsula, opposed the anti-missile system in the first place.

http://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-test-fires-m...
Bad move by SK if you ask me.
and you actually think the antimissile system is designed to protect against NK missiles?!?

thought the actual intent was rather obvious.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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kowalski655 said:
Halmyre said:
I'm at a loss to understand how you 'steal propaganda'. What's the point of having propaganda that you need to steal? Although I suppose it's internal propaganda aimed at NK's own citizens?
According toCNN he nicked a banner from a hotel-no different from nicking a traffic cone over here in reality,waaaay worse in Kim's little world
They released him, but he's severely brain damaged and in a vegetative state.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/201...

Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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The bds probably pumped him full of drugs, or suffocated him during questioning.

Holiday in NK anyone....?

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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Cobnapint said:
The bds probably pumped him full of drugs, or suffocated him during questioning.

Holiday in NK anyone....?
I am in no way condoning what they may or may not have done to him but he also has to take some responsibility for his actions which landed him in court. I am sure it all seemed like a jolly good jape at the time.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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This was posted on the BBC News website this morning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40297493

for some reason it is incredibly hard to find now, not sure what the BBC are trying to do, but Denis Rodman's visit has overshadowed an attack by NK on the NHS, WTF?!?

If true, way more worrying than any missile threat from NK.

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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Efbe said:
This was posted on the BBC News website this morning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40297493

for some reason it is incredibly hard to find now, not sure what the BBC are trying to do, but Denis Rodman's visit has overshadowed an attack by NK on the NHS, WTF?!?

If true, way more worrying than any missile threat from NK.
But NK did not "Attack the NHS", they MAY have released some malware which impacted the NHS as well as many other companies around the world but it was not aimed at the NHS. Just crappy journalism.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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For the dictator that has everything - https://getonfleek.com/product/kim-jong-un-romper/

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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All for removing a small propaganda poster from the wall of a hotel. frown


"Reuters) - U.S. student Otto Warmbier, who was imprisoned in North Korea for 17 months before being returned home in a coma less than a week ago, has died in a Cincinnati hospital, his family said in a statement on Monday."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/ar...

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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BlackLabel said:
All for visiting a tin pot dictatorship with no human rights. frown


"Reuters) - U.S. student Otto Warmbier, who was imprisoned in North Korea for 17 months before being returned home in a coma less than a week ago, has died in a Cincinnati hospital, his family said in a statement on Monday."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/ar...
fixed that for you.

Why people still visit these places is beyond me, the risks are far to high. It's very sad for his family.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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tuffer said:
Cobnapint said:
The bds probably pumped him full of drugs, or suffocated him during questioning.

Holiday in NK anyone....?
I am in no way condoning what they may or may not have done to him but he also has to take some responsibility for his actions which landed him in court. I am sure it all seemed like a jolly good jape at the time.
Are you sure it was definitely him that stole the sign? He couldn't have been fitted up to be used as a pawn in the political game between NK and the USA? I'm 50/50 as to whether it was actually him that even stole the sign - the confession he read out means nothing.

It seems like a tragically bad judgement, I don't understand why anyone, especially an American, would go on holiday to NK. These people are the enemy and would be rubbing their hands together for a chance to hurt an American if they thought they could do it without witnesses.

Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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You'd think Fatty would've welcomed an American wanting to take some NK propaganda back home, you know, to help spread the word, a bit of free advertising and all that.

But I guess the opportunity to rip the US a new asshole was higher on the list of things to do.

They certainly don't hold back. Look what they did to his half brother at the airport in Malaysia.

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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They probably did everything they possibly could to keep him alive for a week until he was home once they knew he was going to die. NK didnt want him dying on their soil. fking cowardly bds.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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p1stonhead said:
They probably did everything they possibly could to keep him alive for a week until he was home once they knew he was going to die. NK didnt want him dying on their soil. fking cowardly bds.
spared some money for burial...

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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AreOut said:
p1stonhead said:
They probably did everything they possibly could to keep him alive for a week until he was home once they knew he was going to die. NK didnt want him dying on their soil. fking cowardly bds.
spared some money for burial...
They'd bury him? I hear they have a lot of hungry...

My Mrs went to NK a few years back, with the same company as Otto, and says you had to behave yourself, simply. Any infraction meant instant arrest and very good chance of never going home. She is really glad she went. I don't think I'll be taking her back...


Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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The problem I have with this is - NK has arrested a foreign national for trying to nick a bit of memorabilia, and returned him to his nation state as a cabbage with a lame excuse as to how he got like that.

If any other country did that there'd be all round international condemnation and the fking balloon would go up. But as it's NK, shoulders are shrugged and it gets passed of as 'he should have known better' and 'thats what they do'.

fk me. The US had grounds to blow that to pieces over this, and I hope one day they will.

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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superkartracer said:
The long detailed reports are awful reading.

http://freekorea.us/camps/22-2/#sthash.Kzn5jB9e.dp...

There is little doubt they have death camps like Nazi Germany does. Summary torture, executions, gas chambers, imprisoning of families/generations of families for the wrongdoings of an individual etc etc.

Its the entire world's elephant in the room.

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Mastodon2 said:
tuffer said:
Cobnapint said:
The bds probably pumped him full of drugs, or suffocated him during questioning.

Holiday in NK anyone....?
I am in no way condoning what they may or may not have done to him but he also has to take some responsibility for his actions which landed him in court. I am sure it all seemed like a jolly good jape at the time.
Are you sure it was definitely him that stole the sign? He couldn't have been fitted up to be used as a pawn in the political game between NK and the USA? I'm 50/50 as to whether it was actually him that even stole the sign - the confession he read out means nothing.

It seems like a tragically bad judgement, I don't understand why anyone, especially an American, would go on holiday to NK. These people are the enemy and would be rubbing their hands together for a chance to hurt an American if they thought they could do it without witnesses.
He denied doing anything at his trial and apparently his fellow travelers back that up,saying he didn't take anything.

Yet found guilty, who would have thought that.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Cobnapint said:
The problem I have with this is - NK has arrested a foreign national for trying to nick a bit of memorabilia, and returned him to his nation state as a cabbage with a lame excuse as to how he got like that.

If any other country did that there'd be all round international condemnation and the fking balloon would go up. But as it's NK, shoulders are shrugged and it gets passed of as 'he should have known better' and 'thats what they do'.

fk me. The US had grounds to blow that to pieces over this, and I hope one day they will.
Makes you wonder if they told him they were going to turn him into a cabbage and gassed him .

Cobnapint

8,633 posts

152 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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The toxicology report should be interesting, and damning.