North Korea - how serious should we take them?

[21TonyK]

MellowshipSlinky said:

Leroy902 said:

He really is a chubby baffoon.

Kim or Donald?

If you photo-swap the hair can you tell the difference?

[cqueen]

gadgetmac said:

Just so we're clear then.

You're happy for South Koreans to die in their millions to protect against a threat the USA percieve could befall them but not happy should it include you.

You're sensationalising. I'm not happy for any innocent people to die - I want as few people to die as possible, hence you are missing my point.

[loafer123]

21TonyK said:

MellowshipSlinky said:

Leroy902 said:

He really is a chubby baffoon.

Kim or Donald?

If you photo-swap the hair can you tell the difference?

Never been seen a room together.

Just saying.

[gadgetmac]

cqueen said:

gadgetmac said:

Just so we're clear then.

You're happy for South Koreans to die in their millions to protect against a threat the USA percieve could befall them but not happy should it include you.

You're sensationalising. I'm not happy for any innocent people to die - I want as few people to die as possible, hence you are missing my point.

Your point is 'strike now, remember Hitler'

My point is you or the USA don't have the right to make that decision for the Millions of South Koreans that might die as a consequence of a furst strike just so American citizens can sleep easy in their beds.

[AreOut]

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

[Efbe]

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

hahahaha.
oh yes, this post is pure brilliance.

[scherzkeks]

Robertj21a said:

gadgetmac said:

This latest missile launch was from a previously unknown (until now) launch site. It took a while for the US to actually figure out where it was exactly. It was also launched at night which is a first.

Knowing when the spy satellites would be overhead they deliberately deployed launch vehicles towards known launch sites at those times leading the US to be aware of an upcomming launch and think it would be done from a certain location - it wasn't.

Does anybody seriously still believe a first strike on NK could take out all of their capability?

Now more than at anytime before it is clear that a first strike will lead to the sacrificial death of tens of thousands of innocent South Koreans civilians and US personell in SE Asia.

Only a madman would attack them now.

So we all leave him to do whatever he wants ? Are we all assuming he only wants it as a deterrent ?

Correct.

[Dindoit]

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

Wow. Written out like that it seems so simple. Surprised nobody has considered it before.

FYI Sudogwon is home to half of SK's entire population. Do you think Kim might notice the tiny exodus of 25m?

[Robertj21a]

Fatty certainly appears to command enough respect and adoration from his own people to be treated as virtually 'God-like'. In that case, I wonder what the impact would be if he was to gradually be taken down with a mystery illness that left him alive, but rendered him quite incapable/unconscious. I'm not convinced that his various henchmen would really know what to do. At least it could give the rest of us many months/years of peace (and more time to look for alternative solutions).

[Welshbeef]

scherzkeks said:

Correct.

And what if it's not a deterant instead an act of agresssjon.

[scherzkeks]

Welshbeef said:

scherzkeks said:

Correct.

And what if it's not a deterant instead an act of agresssjon.

If only Kim would cooperate, then we could absorb NK's land and resources without all of the death and destruction.

[FN2TypeR]

Efbe said:

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

hahahaha.
oh yes, this post is pure brilliance.

It's only 25 million people to evacuate, surely NK would never notice?

[Efbe]

Robertj21a said:

Fatty certainly appears to command enough respect and adoration from his own people to be treated as virtually 'God-like'. In that case, I wonder what the impact would be if he was to gradually be taken down with a mystery illness that left him alive, but rendered him quite incapable/unconscious. I'm not convinced that his various henchmen would really know what to do. At least it could give the rest of us many months/years of peace (and more time to look for alternative solutions).

previous kim disappeared for long periods without question.

This kim has also claimed there has been an attempt made against him, which doesn't surprise me all that much. I imagine it would be very very difficult to get close to him, infiltrate or find out where he is.

[Efbe]

FN2TypeR said:

Efbe said:

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

hahahaha.
oh yes, this post is pure brilliance.

It's only 25 million people to evacuate, surely NK would never notice?

I imagine it would only take 5 mins or so to evacuate SK, why not just move them all to Japan until it's over?

Then use the giant space lazers to shoot down his missiles/rockets when they are still in the trucks, which obviously exist, but the US doesn't want to ever use when they are being shot at in case anyone realises they have them. Chuck norris will be dropped in and finish the rest off afterwards.

[eldar]

Efbe said:

I imagine it would only take 5 mins or so to evacuate SK, why not just move them all to Japan until it's over?

Then use the giant space lazers to shoot down his missiles/rockets when they are still in the trucks, which obviously exist, but the US doesn't want to ever use when they are being shot at in case anyone realises they have them. Chuck norris will be dropped in and finish the rest off afterwards.

You've just reinvented Regan's Star Wars....

[rich85uk]

Efbe said:

FN2TypeR said:

Efbe said:

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

hahahaha.
oh yes, this post is pure brilliance.

It's only 25 million people to evacuate, surely NK would never notice?

I imagine it would only take 5 mins or so to evacuate SK, why not just move them all to Japan until it's over?

Then use the giant space lazers to shoot down his missiles/rockets when they are still in the trucks, which obviously exist, but the US doesn't want to ever use when they are being shot at in case anyone realises they have them. Chuck norris will be dropped in and finish the rest off afterwards.

It would be better if they were evacuated to North Korea, that way any missile's fired at South Koreans would do a u turn a target the positions they were fired from.

[AreOut]

Dindoit said:

Wow. Written out like that it seems so simple. Surprised nobody has considered it before.

FYI Sudogwon is home to half of SK's entire population. Do you think Kim might notice the tiny exodus of 25m?

so what if he does? SK has the right to do whatever they want on their territory, if Kim attacks first it will provide 'casus belli' for USA to obliterate them, China and Russia would have to stay silent in that case.

[FN2TypeR]

Like when China stayed silent after NK kicked off preceedings last time?

[mikal83]

Efbe said:

AreOut said:

it doesn't have to be millions, SK can move almost all civilian population from Seoul area to the south before the strike

yes thousands would still die but if Kim continues with development it might be milions in a couple of years

decision to nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki wasn't easy to bring but it likely saved lot of lives in comparison

hahahaha.
oh yes, this post is pure brilliance.

But its right tho!

[hairykrishna]

It's a ridiculous suggestion. Can you imagine the impact on this country if you moved all of the population of London, which is less than that of Seoul, out for a few weeks/months?