North Korea - how serious should we take them?

[skwdenyer]

Murph7355 said:

Welshbeef said:

As someone born in the 1970's the last 20 years have been pretty crazy and escalating at an insane level

I'd wager whatever happens that in the future economists historians politicians will study this time. Will they realise that when all is said and done humans are destructive greedy animals. ...

You didn't need the last 20yrs to draw or confirm that conclusion.

Interesting that one talks about the last 20 years as if they were unusual.

India-Pakistan 1971
Yom Kuppur 1973
Cambodia-Vietnam 1975-89
Afghanistan 1979-89
Iran-Iraq 1980-88
Falklands 1982
Gulf War 1990-1
Bosnia 1992-5
Kosovo 1998-9

Those are just some of the notable ones up to 20 years ago or so. The Cold War of course ran on and on until 1989, too.

Since then we've had a similar set of stuff going on. It hasn't really been "peaceful" ever.

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

As someone born in the 1970's the last 20 years have been pretty crazy and escalating at an insane level

I'd wager whatever happens that in the future economists historians politicians will study this time. Will they realise that when all is said and done humans are destructive greedy animals.
Be it religion mineral wealth or energy security or possibly plain boredom mundane life that gets the drive towards war.

World com and everything that followed
Piper Alfa
Lehmans
9/11
Tsunami Boxing Day
Mecando oil rig

Near cure of aids.

Overdramatic much.

I was born in 1965, compared to my grandparents (all now gone) we have had it incredibly easy.

[gadgetmac]

jsf said:

Welshbeef said:

As someone born in the 1970's the last 20 years have been pretty crazy and escalating at an insane level

I'd wager whatever happens that in the future economists historians politicians will study this time. Will they realise that when all is said and done humans are destructive greedy animals.
Be it religion mineral wealth or energy security or possibly plain boredom mundane life that gets the drive towards war.

World com and everything that followed
Piper Alfa
Lehmans
9/11
Tsunami Boxing Day
Mecando oil rig

Near cure of aids.

Overdramatic much.

I was born in 1965, compared to my grandparents (all now gone) we have had it incredibly easy.

This x10 billion.

[Wacky Racer]

Go back in time till Adam were a lad, there has always been wars somewhere in the world, can't ever see anything changing soon.

The next BIG one will make WW1 and WW2 look like a teddy bears picnic, but it will be over in a few days.

[jmorgan]

Put some perspective on it, I think there are many in the world today that could not give a toss, but because their life is already bad, torn apart by smaller conflict and has been for some time.

[AstonZagato]

Wacky Racer said:

Go back in time till Adam were a lad, there has always been wars somewhere in the world, can't ever see anything changing soon.

The next BIG one will make WW1 and WW2 look like a teddy bears picnic, but it will be over in a few days.

“It will all be over before Christmas...”

[AstonZagato]

War is a constant. It’s happening somewhere in the world pretty much all the time. I think we live in a remarkably peaceful era and, far from ‘escalating’ I feel that if anything our lives continue to get more peaceful and easier.

Terrorism is pretty much contained to low level fkwittery and other than our politicians sending British troops on pointless escapades in sandy places, we are in a good spot.

[BlackLabel]

[mikal83]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww they gave the orange buffoon tits.

[FN2TypeR]

Jesus Christ I did not need to see that!

[Pan Pan Pan]

FN2TypeR said:

Jesus Christ I did not need to see that!

To be fair that is what we often seem to be involved with here on NP&E, NO matter what the subject or who the posters are, there will always be someone who holds a counter view to our own and it is one of the amusing features about NP&E. As long as people realize that it is all just willy waving light entertainment, as this beautifully accurate carton suggests, all will be fine.

But as said earlier This is just a case of small rocket idiot, challenging big rocket idiot to a willy waving contest. Lets hope for all our sakes that this is how the situation remains, and that it does not escalate..

[Tom Logan]

[anonymous-user]

Its when they start slagging each others wives off you have to start worrying.

[Globs]

Understanding 911's place in history to see how we ended up threatening NK today:

Cobnapint said:

But to suggest the Yanks arranged to have airliners flown into World Trade 1, World Trade 2, The Pentagon, and Washington DC (crashed before designated target after passengers fought the Al Qaeda hijackers), just so they could pick a fight somewhere is fking ridiculous.

You start out well here, although no one really accused the 'Yanks' in the video.
You also missed out WTC7 collapsing and the bizarre case of the Pentagon's damage and the cleanup crew's attire. Oh and Flight 93 which was not actually for DC, it was for WTC7. Did you know the officials claimed that soft ground had swallowed up Flight 93?

Perhaps you can point out any errors or factual and historical mistakes - if it's all rubbish that should be easy right? Start at 57 minutes in for the actual problems with the event itself, or at the beginning if you want to dispute the documented historical events and statements leading up to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MtYuazrow

Perhaps you'd like to start out explaining how they found nano thermite which to my knowledge is not a construction material used in either steel framed building or modern jet airliners.

So prove you are confident that 911 was as advertised and debunk the video - should be a piece of cake right?

[BrabusMog]

Globs said:

Understanding 911's place in history to see how we ended up threatening NK today:

Cobnapint said:

But to suggest the Yanks arranged to have airliners flown into World Trade 1, World Trade 2, The Pentagon, and Washington DC (crashed before designated target after passengers fought the Al Qaeda hijackers), just so they could pick a fight somewhere is fking ridiculous.

You start out well here, although no one really accused the 'Yanks' in the video.
You also missed out WTC7 collapsing and the bizarre case of the Pentagon's damage and the cleanup crew's attire. Oh and Flight 93 which was not actually for DC, it was for WTC7. Did you know the officials claimed that soft ground had swallowed up Flight 93?

Perhaps you can point out any errors or factual and historical mistakes - if it's all rubbish that should be easy right? Start at 57 minutes in for the actual problems with the event itself, or at the beginning if you want to dispute the documented historical events and statements leading up to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MtYuazrow

Perhaps you'd like to start out explaining how they found nano thermite which to my knowledge is not a construction material used in either steel framed building or modern jet airliners.

So prove you are confident that 911 was as advertised and debunk the video - should be a piece of cake right?

You are a nutjob.

[Funkycoldribena]

Globs said:

You start out well here, although no one really accused the 'Yanks' in the video.
You also missed out WTC7 collapsing and the bizarre case of the Pentagon's damage and the cleanup crew's attire. Oh and Flight 93 which was not actually for DC, it was for WTC7. Did you know the officials claimed that soft ground had swallowed up Flight 93?

Perhaps you can point out any errors or factual and historical mistakes - if it's all rubbish that should be easy right? Start at 57 minutes in for the actual problems with the event itself, or at the beginning if you want to dispute the documented historical events and statements leading up to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MtYuazrow

Perhaps you'd like to start out explaining how they found nano thermite which to my knowledge is not a construction material used in either steel framed building or modern jet airliners.

So prove you are confident that 911 was as advertised and debunk the video - should be a piece of cake right?

I'm not going to attack you,everyone is entitled to their opinion. However there's an equal amount of videos debunking the conspiracy theorists.
There were 136 witnesses to an aeroplane hitting the Pentagon for a start.
Were they all fibbing?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Funkycoldribena said:

I'm not going to attack you,everyone is entitled to their opinion. However there's an equal amount of videos debunking the conspiracy theorists.
There were 136 witnesses to an aeroplane hitting the Pentagon for a start.
Were they all fibbing?

The Lizard masters made them all lie.

[jmorgan]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Funkycoldribena said:

I'm not going to attack you,everyone is entitled to their opinion. However there's an equal amount of videos debunking the conspiracy theorists.
There were 136 witnesses to an aeroplane hitting the Pentagon for a start.
Were they all fibbing?

The Lizard masters made them all lie.

They fired off HAARP at the same time they chem trailed Gage and Jones.

[Escapegoat]

Globs said:

Perhaps you'd like to start out explaining how they found nano thermite which to my knowledge is not a construction material used in either steel framed building or modern jet airliners.

OK, I'll bite. This was news to me. And 10 minutes of the most basic online research shows it to be BS.

This - https://powerm1985.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/7to... - is the peer-reviewed scientific paper that claimed to have found it. Have a read.

Now, the editor of the journal (The Open Chemical Physics Journal) resigned over it being published without her authorisation. And the new editor also resigned over it. Saying: " after becoming acquainted with the article you mention, its possible misshandling, etc- i submitted my immediate resignation as editor to the open chemical physics journal. As you can see from the email below, my letter of resignation was received and acknowledged. However, i still appear as the journal's editor - in fact i'm still receiving manuscripts to handle (which i naturally ignore)."

The author of the paper has - even before receiving any of the dust samples - already said thermite did it. He will not release the dust samples for other non-truther materials scientists to test.

As anyone in academia can tell you, there's a business publishing papers from needy academics who can't get them published in legit journals. Which is why the same publisher also managed to publish a "peer-reviewed" article which was computer generated gibberish: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17288-crap-...

[Somewhatfoolish]

FN2TypeR said:

Jesus Christ I did not need to see that!

I find it unlikely Kim is circumcised. I suspect the photograph is a forgery.