North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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JoBlack

143 posts

81 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Kim discusses how much photoshopping he wants done on his dickpic before it's sent to Trump's snapchat.


Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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jsf said:
Laugh all you like, as soon as the USA see the threat as real i cant see them not acting.
Like a missile flying straight over their base? that already happened or what happened to Otto Warmbier?

The only way the US will know NK has it in range and the technology to get a nuke there is after the fact.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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TVR Moneypit said:
jsf said:
Well this one landed in Japanese territorial waters. oh dear.
Which is usually what, 12 NM offshore?
Reports now saying it was in Japan's Exclusive Economic Zone, which takes in more than the territorial waters.

Japan government is holding an emergency meeting.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Range puts this at around 13,000km , lets see what the yanks do .

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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jsf said:
As soon as the USA see a performance from one of these missiles that would allow it to reach mainland USA, NK is going to be lit up..
Rubbish , this one has a range of 13000km , the USA are not going to a single thing.

sooperscoop

408 posts

164 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Nothing is going to happen.

South Korea has had it's towns shelled and a naval vessel sunk with dozens of casualties in recent memory. And done nothing. I'm sat in a South Korean Starbucks writing this and although it's news, I don't think anyone gives much of a crap.

Japan has had its citizens kidnapped and missiles lobbed over it's territory. And done nothing. The missile could have landed in Ginza and they would still do nothing.

It's in no one's interest, including the USA and the NK elite, to turn the peninsula into a war zone. NK will swing its dick only so far without tapping anyone's forehead. They aren't stupid.

I genuinely think if NK went mental, the PLA would be in Pyongyang before you could say 'Ni hao'.



Driller

8,310 posts

279 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Kim Jong-un said:
As a responsible nuclear power and a peace-loving state", North Korea would "make every possible effort to serve the noble purpose of defending peace and stability of the world".


It said its weapons, meant as a defence against "the US imperialists' nuclear blackmail policy", would "not pose any threat to any country" as long as North Korean interests were not infringed upon.
"This is our solemn declaration."
Definitely sounds like the words of a madman warmonger doesn’t it?

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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As I see it, this is Kim simply showing he can run with the big boys therefore don't push us around. If you have a mentality of feeling bullied then it's natural.

I really nothing else happening but then again I'm no international diplomat.

Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
scratchchin

Roofless Toothless

5,676 posts

133 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
scratchchin
It didn't work.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...


Jazzy Jag

3,431 posts

92 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
scratchchin
It didn't work.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Bugger.

Would be useful in the current situation.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Jazzy Jag said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
scratchchin
It didn't work.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Bugger.

Would be useful in the current situation.
It did I thought, bankrupted the USSR trying to keep up? Not quite the way it was intended though, or was it.....

Meteor Madness

403 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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jmorgan said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
scratchchin
It didn't work.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Bugger.

Would be useful in the current situation.
It did I thought, bankrupted the USSR trying to keep up? Not quite the way it was intended though, or was it.....
it played a part in it, but it was more some clever politics around oil by the US that sunk the USSR. It's always oil!

768

13,707 posts

97 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.

Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
I think they're North Korea's figures, requoted by the BBC.

But it's probably in the right ballpark - this one was lobbed virtually straight up, rather than on a lower trajectory for maximum range. It took nearly an hour to go up and down. Plus, it may have been carrying a substantially lighter payload than anything anyone would worry about.

Edited by 768 on Wednesday 29th November 10:15

MDMetal

2,776 posts

149 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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768 said:
TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.

Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
I think they're North Korea's figures, requoted by the BBC.

But it's probably in the right ballpark - this one was lobbed virtually straight up, rather than on a lower trajectory for maximum range. It took nearly an hour to go up and down. Plus, it may have been carrying a substantially lighter payload than anything anyone would worry about.

Edited by 768 on Wednesday 29th November 10:15
The fact that news outlets are resorting to pointing it it "may have a lighter payload" or "it may take a number of years to perfect the reentry vehicle" shows just how desperate we've come to placate ourselves. The fact is 5 years ago this was unimaginable, we were talking about the fact they maybe able to fire a rocket a bit further than they could back then.

They've consistently made huge leaps forward despite the sanctions imposed. Regardless of the bonkers regime and personality cult issues and the crushing of his own population they've become or are literally on the verge of becoming an international nuclear state and demonstrated that it's a far better route to becoming an unassailable state vs capitulating in the way that Libya or Iraq did.

If nobody felt they could do something about it before they sure can't now. Just sit tight and treat them like adults and hope for the best basically!

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.

Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/29/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

Nearly 3000 miles!

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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yupp, it well escaped low earth orbit...

768

13,707 posts

97 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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MDMetal said:
They've consistently made huge leaps forward despite the sanctions imposed.
Yep.

MDMetal said:
If nobody felt they could do something about it before they sure can't now.
Certainly the longer this goes on, the further down the road they'll be.

Cobnapint

8,634 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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And they did it all on their own

Without any outside help

Whatsoever.