North Korea - how serious should we take them?
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jsf said:
Laugh all you like, as soon as the USA see the threat as real i cant see them not acting.
Like a missile flying straight over their base? that already happened or what happened to Otto Warmbier?The only way the US will know NK has it in range and the technology to get a nuke there is after the fact.
TVR Moneypit said:
jsf said:
Well this one landed in Japanese territorial waters. oh dear.
Which is usually what, 12 NM offshore?Japan government is holding an emergency meeting.
Nothing is going to happen.
South Korea has had it's towns shelled and a naval vessel sunk with dozens of casualties in recent memory. And done nothing. I'm sat in a South Korean Starbucks writing this and although it's news, I don't think anyone gives much of a crap.
Japan has had its citizens kidnapped and missiles lobbed over it's territory. And done nothing. The missile could have landed in Ginza and they would still do nothing.
It's in no one's interest, including the USA and the NK elite, to turn the peninsula into a war zone. NK will swing its dick only so far without tapping anyone's forehead. They aren't stupid.
I genuinely think if NK went mental, the PLA would be in Pyongyang before you could say 'Ni hao'.
South Korea has had it's towns shelled and a naval vessel sunk with dozens of casualties in recent memory. And done nothing. I'm sat in a South Korean Starbucks writing this and although it's news, I don't think anyone gives much of a crap.
Japan has had its citizens kidnapped and missiles lobbed over it's territory. And done nothing. The missile could have landed in Ginza and they would still do nothing.
It's in no one's interest, including the USA and the NK elite, to turn the peninsula into a war zone. NK will swing its dick only so far without tapping anyone's forehead. They aren't stupid.
I genuinely think if NK went mental, the PLA would be in Pyongyang before you could say 'Ni hao'.
Kim Jong-un said:
As a responsible nuclear power and a peace-loving state", North Korea would "make every possible effort to serve the noble purpose of defending peace and stability of the world".
It said its weapons, meant as a defence against "the US imperialists' nuclear blackmail policy", would "not pose any threat to any country" as long as North Korean interests were not infringed upon.
"This is our solemn declaration."
Definitely sounds like the words of a madman warmonger doesn’t it? It said its weapons, meant as a defence against "the US imperialists' nuclear blackmail policy", would "not pose any threat to any country" as long as North Korean interests were not infringed upon.
"This is our solemn declaration."
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
It didn't work.https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
It didn't work.https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Would be useful in the current situation.
Jazzy Jag said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
It didn't work.https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Would be useful in the current situation.
jmorgan said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Jazzy Jag said:
What happened to Reagan's starwars project from the 80s?
It didn't work.https://science.howstuffworks.com/star-wars-progra...
Would be useful in the current situation.
TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
But it's probably in the right ballpark - this one was lobbed virtually straight up, rather than on a lower trajectory for maximum range. It took nearly an hour to go up and down. Plus, it may have been carrying a substantially lighter payload than anything anyone would worry about.
Edited by 768 on Wednesday 29th November 10:15
768 said:
TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
But it's probably in the right ballpark - this one was lobbed virtually straight up, rather than on a lower trajectory for maximum range. It took nearly an hour to go up and down. Plus, it may have been carrying a substantially lighter payload than anything anyone would worry about.
Edited by 768 on Wednesday 29th November 10:15
They've consistently made huge leaps forward despite the sanctions imposed. Regardless of the bonkers regime and personality cult issues and the crushing of his own population they've become or are literally on the verge of becoming an international nuclear state and demonstrated that it's a far better route to becoming an unassailable state vs capitulating in the way that Libya or Iraq did.
If nobody felt they could do something about it before they sure can't now. Just sit tight and treat them like adults and hope for the best basically!
TVR Moneypit said:
Meteor Madness said:
BBC reporting the latest missile reached an altitude of 4475kms, eleven times that of the International Space Station.
4500k's? Is that an accurate figure for an IRBM? Seems awfully high to me? I'd have thought 450km's would have seemed more likely.Not questioning you here Meteor, more the accrucy of the BBC's figures.
Nearly 3000 miles!
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