Big bang near a mosque in Tipton.

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Transmat

1,020 posts

95 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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AnonSpoilSport said:
I think it's spreading; half an hour ago my eight year old piped up (out of the blue) with "The most evil nation in the world is Islam."

Didn't get it from me - we'd actually been talking about volcanoes - wasn't watching news etc. just playing on his Tablet. Possibly heard at school? I suspect your religion has a pr job to attend to.
It's sad that he said that, but I'm glad you did the right parental thing and corrected him.

As for my religion having a PR job to attend to, I'm not sure why the Catholic Church is responsible for your son saying this, but I'll pass on your feedback when I'm next at church (probably the day I get married).

heppers75

3,135 posts

148 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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vonuber said:
Bloody immigrants coming over here, stealing all the EDL's jobs...

wink
smile As you have just used yours, here have my spare...


AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

107 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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Transmat said:
AnonSpoilSport said:
I think it's spreading; half an hour ago my eight year old piped up (out of the blue) with "The most evil nation in the world is Islam."

Didn't get it from me - we'd actually been talking about volcanoes - wasn't watching news etc. just playing on his Tablet. Possibly heard at school? I suspect your religion has a pr job to attend to.
It's sad that he said that, but I'm glad you did the right parental thing and corrected him.

As for my religion having a PR job to attend to, I'm not sure why the Catholic Church is responsible for your son saying this, but I'll pass on your feedback when I'm next at church (probably the day I get married).
Rest assured, I did*. He ended up regretting the (boring) lecture he received but has promised not to listen to or repeat any such thing at school. I know and believe him enough to think he'll resist any 'go with the herd' peer-pressure parroting.

Actually, I can't imagine it's much talked about at this particular (rural) junior school but probably stems from their having done a topic on Islam this term. I suspect a child has gone home, mentioned this and had some 'strong' views expressed by a parent. Then repeated it back in school.

As for your flavour of belief, I'd just received (mistakenly it seems) from other posters' response to you that you were Muslim.

  • Trouble is I've just realised that when I corrected him it was along the lines of "No, Islam is not the most evil nation, or even religion - that's Catholicism. Catholics, they've done this... and that... and..."

Transmat

1,020 posts

95 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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AnonSpoilSport said:
Rest assured, I did*. He ended up regretting the (boring) lecture he received but has promised not to listen to or repeat any such thing at school. I know and believe him enough to think he'll resist any 'go with the herd' peer-pressure parroting.

Actually, I can't imagine it's much talked about at this particular (rural) junior school but probably stems from their having done a topic on Islam this term. I suspect a child has gone home, mentioned this and had some 'strong' views expressed by a parent. Then repeated it back in school.

As for your flavour of belief, I'd just received (mistakenly it seems) from other posters' response to you that you were Muslim.

  • Trouble is I've just realised that when I corrected him it was along the lines of "No, Islam is not the most evil nation, or even religion - that's Catholicism. Catholics, they've done this... and that... and..."
The thing about that age group is that obviously they don't understand the context of what they are saying, and I guess as a parent even a lecture might not make him realise what he is saying is wrong, even if you tell him it is, but it's good to make an effort to try as you did.

I remember in the early 80s when I was in first school at a similar age and we used to watch cultural videos shadowing the lifestyle of Muslim children etc to help us to understand diversity, but 99% of the time it just resulted in us taking the piss out of the accents in the playground, it didn't really go to plan.

No, I'm definitely not a Muslim and I can barely claim to be a catholic either as I haven't been to church in over 20 years.

peterpeter

6,406 posts

188 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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tonker said:
My first thought was "Idiots." My second was to wonder how convenient it was that prayers were postponed and the bomb was in a back corner of the car park.....

what a good way to deflect attention from an atrocity committed in the name of Islam, and replace it with sympathy for Muslims
the second component of your personality is a bit of a nob, isn't he?


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wolves_wanderer

10,989 posts

168 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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peterpeter said:
tonker said:
My first thought was "Idiots." My second was to wonder how convenient it was that prayers were postponed and the bomb was in a back corner of the car park.....

what a good way to deflect attention from an atrocity committed in the name of Islam, and replace it with sympathy for Muslims
the second component of your personality is a bit of a nob, isn't he?
hehe

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

113 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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"One of two Ukrainian men held over bomb attacks near three mosques has been released without charge.

The 22-year-old was arrested by detectives investigating explosions near mosques in Walsall, Wolverhampton and Tipton between 22 June and 12 July.

Another man, aged 25, is still being questioned about the explosions and the murder of 82-year-old Mohammed Saleem.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23...

Happy82

10,256 posts

100 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Just saw a bomb dispel truck heading towards Lye/ Brierley Hill in the Dudley area, hopefully not another incident.

dudleybloke

14,269 posts

117 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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iv just come back from brierly hill and theres nothing going on there.

s1962a

2,022 posts

93 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23...

BBC said:
A 25-year-old Ukrainian man has appeared in court charged with the "terrorist-related" murder of 82-year-old Mohammed Saleem in Birmingham.

West Midlands Police said that Pavlo Lapshyn has also been charged in relation to explosions at three mosques.

Mr_B

10,294 posts

174 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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Man admits murder and bomb plots.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24614280

dirkgently

2,051 posts

162 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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dudleybloke

14,269 posts

117 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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40 years!
decent length of time.

Mr_B

10,294 posts

174 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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dudleybloke said:
40 years!
decent length of time.
Yes, but no one called a COBRA meeting , and that's a problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24...

dudleybloke

14,269 posts

117 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Mr_B said:
Yes, but no one called a COBRA meeting , and that's a problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24...


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