Big bang near a mosque in Tipton.

[Transmat]

Guam said:

It wasn't home grown fascists either aaah right didn't think so <I like this kind of bks argument it could catch on>

We can only be sure of 50% of that at the moment, but can be 100% sure it wasn't Muslims, so you are half right.

[AJS-]

Eastern European could well be Albanian, Bosnian, from the Caucases or Turkey.

Or it could be a Polish plumber and part time British nationalist.

Not necessarily saying one is more likely than the other...

[TheEnd]

IT'S A DOUBLE FALSE FLAG ONCE REVERSED WITH A TWIST!

[Bill]

Transmat said:

So it wasn't Muslims who planted the device to create more troubles so they could blame EDL etc? An right, didn't think so.

Do we know they're not Muslims? Could be Bosnians... But it does seem unlikely.

Either way, I don't think anyone predicted that it'd be our recent immigrants trying to blow up our less recent. Of course [tinfoilhat] if you wanted to defuse the situation then making it look like it wasn't some homegrown nutters would help*... [/tinfoilhat]

*I don't believe this is the case.

[MX7]

TheEnd said:

IT'S A DOUBLE FALSE FLAG ONCE REVERSED WITH A TWIST!

That's what they want you think.

[colonel c]

The BBC said:

Two Ukrainian men, aged 25 and 22, have been arrested under the Terrorism Act in connection with the explosions, which took place in Walsall and Tipton.

[rohrl]

There are 46 million Ukrainians. The Pew Research Centre reckons that 393,000 of them are Muslims. So they could be Muslim but statistically it's not very likely.

[Transmat]

Guam said:

Oh you really are insufferable, we cant actually be 100% sure of either <I never felt it was either scenario in essence> stop talking utter tripe!

I didn't say you had? I just quoted your comment that's all. Go and have a Prozac and a cup of tea and lets watch this story as it unfolds.

[Gargamel]

TheEnd said:

IT'S A DOUBLE FALSE FLAG ONCE REVERSED WITH A TWIST!

[Transmat]

Guam said:

You should go back and re read your post, you inferred certainty of 100% on a theoretical construct and 50% on another when at that point neither was certain, indeed as of yet it may not even be these guys, we also don't know their religious background> the comment I placed there wasn't specifically aimed at you it was a general caveat that I hadn't bought into any theory <EDL or False Flag>, no need for Prozac thanks, comprehension assistance may prove beneficial to you however.

Who do you think it was then? Any theories to bring it back on topic?

[rohrl]

Transmat said:

Who do you think it was then? Any theories to bring it back on topic?

What's the point in speculating? We'll find out one way or the other soon enough.

[Transmat]

Guam said:

A nut job with too much time on his hands, as for motivation no clue <has anyone>?

Do you think it was likely a Muslim who did it to create tensions in the community?

[MX7]

Transmat said:

Do you think it was likely a Muslim who did it to create tensions in the community?

I think that one person suggested that it was a possibility.

You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder.

[Transmat]

MX7 said:

I think that one person suggested that it was a possibility.

You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder.

No chip here, just interested in more views. I do think the suggestion that a Muslim would blow up their own mosque is stupid though.

You DO have a massive chip on yours though

[Transmat]

Guam said:

Good god stop fishing to drag out the usual bks type arguments, I have already addressed that, I don't know, one way or the other. Personally I think it unlikely. Given what we see elsewhere in the world between Sunni and Shia I could not preclude the possibility. However I have no fking clue who did it. That will change undoubtedly, but casting aspersions on any community and ascribing motivations to the unknown is not helpful <either way>.

<ok> <keep> your hair <on> <>

[MX7]

Transmat said:

No chip here, just interested in more views.

No you're not. You're interested in one view and defending your faith, regardless of how absurd it makes you look.

[s1962a]

Another explosion site in Wolverhampton

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23...

[Shaw Tarse]

Wolverhampton too http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10189600/Wo...

[Digga]

That Wolverhampton site is very central - the potential for casualties is huge, far greater than the Tipton site. I hope the police have nicked the right bds and there will be an end to all of this.

[odyssey2200]

Transmat said:

I do think the suggestion that a Muslim would blow up their own mosque is stupid though.

maybe they were the wrong flavour of Muslim?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-233784...

and pleanty of other similar events reported on the BBC etc.

Google is your friend, not an imaginary sky daddy.

HTH