EDL boss Tommy Robinson again proves his stupidity

[Quisling]

chrispmartha said:

What do you mean ‘put off’?

Ho do you suggest you check if they are the ‘right’ sort of transperson before being allowed in a toilet?

Are you wanting a job inspecting the contents of folks underwear before they go for a dump?

bad news

that job doesn't exist out side of the Viz

[R Mutt]

bhstewie said:

R Mutt said:

I was a member of the Vegetarian Society. What's your point if this is aimed at me? That I'm an Islamo/transphobe for returning the discussion to the underlying welfare concerns rather than focusing on race and gender?

That's what I have sought to achieve throughout so you need to follow the thread if you think that is hypocrisy. Surely deflecting to Kosher slaughter or pedophile priests is a similar approach and it would be quite unreasonable to make the same criticism of anyone who neglected to equally denounce offenders of all races.

I'm sure you were.

My point is that if people don't want to come across as only having an issue with animal welfare when it concerns Halal and if people only want to come across as only being bothered about women's rights when it's about "men in women's toilets" perhaps don't only get into it when it's about Halal or when it's about trans men.

I've been on here a long time and I've yet to see anyone start a thread on the way Kosher slaughter happens.

Yet here we are on the Tommy thread or pretty much any other where Islam is mentioned and suddenly everyone's a paid up member of PETA.

The first mention I saw of Halal was in the context of its opponents being largely racist...

Edited by R Mutt on Monday 22 March 13:01

[Quisling]

bhstewie said:

Yet here we are on the Tommy thread or pretty much any other where Islam is mentioned and suddenly everyone's a paid up member of PETA.

I have a higher opinion of the EDL than i do of PETA

and so should any right minded person

[rscott]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Countdown said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Just the anger the bloke causes from a certain type of person is quite impressive.

I think you're confusing anger with contempt. The man's a turd and so are his supporters.

Nope, it's anger. Proper frothing at the mouth venom.

I suggest you calm down then, if reading this thread makes you froth at the mouth.

[R Mutt]

chrispmartha said:

R Mutt said:

chrispmartha said:

Why is a Trans Woman who hasn’t had an operation automatically a bigger threat than a person who has had an operation?

Besides all that, what’s your suggestion for ‘policing’ toilets?

Rape, statistically.

Do I need to offer a solution to absolve myself of transphobia?

What are the statistics on trans women raping women in toilets?

I never mentioned toilets.

[Quisling]

otolith said:

The trans rights issue seems to have united bigots from the right with some older left wing feminists. I suppose if one wishes to distinguish a left wing terf from a generic right wing bigot one might check to see whether they are also a bit racist.

I think we should have checks and balances before we let fully functional biological males into SOME womens only spaces

Am i a biggot?

[chrispmartha]

Quisling said:

chrispmartha said:

What do you mean ‘put off’?

Ho do you suggest you check if they are the ‘right’ sort of transperson before being allowed in a toilet?

Are you wanting a job inspecting the contents of folks underwear before they go for a dump?

bad news

that job doesn't exist out side of the Viz

Erm that’s exactly my point

[chrispmartha]

Quisling said:

otolith said:

The trans rights issue seems to have united bigots from the right with some older left wing feminists. I suppose if one wishes to distinguish a left wing terf from a generic right wing bigot one might check to see whether they are also a bit racist.

I think we should have checks and balances before we let fully functional biological males into SOME womens only spaces

Am i a biggot?

What checks?

[otolith]

Quisling said:

otolith said:

The trans rights issue seems to have united bigots from the right with some older left wing feminists. I suppose if one wishes to distinguish a left wing terf from a generic right wing bigot one might check to see whether they are also a bit racist.

I think we should have checks and balances before we let fully functional biological males into SOME womens only spaces

Am i a biggot?

I think it's pretty clear that neither of you is a radical feminist who is terribly concerned about women's safety where there isn't an opportunity to have a go at trans people. You do the maths.

Quisling said:

Is this one of those vigils where you get free shoes and maybe a telly?

R Mutt said:

I thought the anti male stuff had gone too far, so it was reassuring to hear one of Sarah's friends denounce curfews and such nonsense. But now judging by the subsequent protests and social media it's merged defacto with BLM to become anti-police. Apparently female officers are bds now. It couldn't be any further derailed if you threw XR and Antifa in to the mix which will likely happen in due course.

[Bacon Is Proof]

Quisling said:

I have a higher opinion of the EDL than i do of PETA

and so should any right minded person

Only the less enlightened who walk among us would feel the need to form the hierarchy...

[Quisling]

chrispmartha said:

Quisling said:

otolith said:

The trans rights issue seems to have united bigots from the right with some older left wing feminists. I suppose if one wishes to distinguish a left wing terf from a generic right wing bigot one might check to see whether they are also a bit racist.

I think we should have checks and balances before we let fully functional biological males into SOME womens only spaces

Am i a biggot?

What checks?

Basically

Is this a real trans person OR is it a piss taking WHITE MALE trying to take advantage

As well as what risks are there behind letting a male into this space

A women’s refuge i would say letting Tommy Robison loving scum like me into is a higher risk then letting us into the women’s stters

[chrispmartha]

Quisling said:

chrispmartha said:

Quisling said:

otolith said:

The trans rights issue seems to have united bigots from the right with some older left wing feminists. I suppose if one wishes to distinguish a left wing terf from a generic right wing bigot one might check to see whether they are also a bit racist.

I think we should have checks and balances before we let fully functional biological males into SOME womens only spaces

Am i a biggot?

What checks?

Basically

Is this a real trans person OR is it a piss taking WHITE MALE trying to take advantage

As well as what risks are there behind letting a male into this space

A women’s refuge i would say letting Tommy Robison loving scum like me into is a higher risk then letting us into the women’s stters

Im asking for specifics how do you (not you personally i hope) make these checks

What’s a ‘real’ trans person?

[Quisling]

chrispmartha said:

Im asking for specifics how do you (not you personally i hope) make these checks

What’s a ‘real’ trans person?

I don’t know I’m not an expert

But i am a DISGUSTING TRANSPHOBE

So we should completely ignore any risks

[Quisling]

Should skinheaded EDL supporters be denied a vote as their opinions are worthless

[kevinon]

Quisling said:

Should skinheaded EDL supporters be denied a vote as their opinions are worthless

Nobody wants to take away the vote. That would be very illiberal. In fact, progressives would argue for wider voting - including those in jail. Which would surely benefit Tommy Robinson.

[anonymous-user]

Quisling said:

El stovey said:

Ideally society should educate “racist scum” but if you’re constantly finding people think you’re racist you have to have the self awareness to think ‘hang on maybe I’m a bit racist’ to make any positive changes.

define

RACIST

As i really don't care about being labeled as one online

In a world where cooking a curry can get you labelled as a racist

I don't think being a racist is that rare or that unusual

as such when you label TTTOOMmmmmyyyyy as a racist i really don't care


I still think he is a conman who preys on the stupid

For someone who doesn't care, you don't half seem to have gone off on one. You seem to be self-triggering now.

[anonymous-user]

Quisling said:

Bacon Is Proof said:

Are people still holding up a jobless failed football hooligan as some sort of inspiration?
How embarrassing.

Are people still using a conman football hooligan as a reason to dismiss real concerns

How unexpected

Hate to break it to you but the thread is about "a conman football hooligan" called Tommy Robinson. Start a thread to describe and discuss your "real concerns" if you're that bothered.

The one thing that MOST people can understand is that TR has only ever got involved in things that feed his, and other's, prejudice and benefit TR. He hasn't performed any useful public service.

[jakesmith]

bhstewie said:

I've been on here a long time and I've yet to see anyone start a thread on the way Kosher slaughter happens.
Yet here we are on the Tommy thread or pretty much any other where Islam is mentioned and suddenly everyone's a paid up member of PETA.

Yet anti-zionism is a legitimate UK left wing protest and it was just plain wrong to make suggestions about the motivations of these frothing Palestinan flag waving Corbyn-loving anti-zionists at the time as I recall it. Tell me I'm wrong bhstewie.

[ReverendCounter]

Roman Rhodes said:

He hasn't performed any useful public service.

John Sweeney?

[bitchstewie]

jakesmith said:

Yet anti-zionism is a legitimate UK left wing protest and it was just plain wrong to make suggestions about the motivations of these frothing Palestinan flag waving Corbyn-loving anti-zionists at the time as I recall it. Tell me I'm wrong bhstewie.

It isn't one I think I know nearly enough about to comment.

We all know the issues Labour had with anti-semitism under Corbyn so I could certainly take a guess.

I'm honestly pretty ignorant on the Israel/Palestine issue other than the stuff that's in the headlines because it's blatant anti-semitism.