EDL boss Tommy Robinson again proves his stupidity
Discussion
otolith said:
R Mutt said:
While quoting me on the hijacking of protests by those with ulterior motives, as evidence that I have no interests in the real safety concerns and by default must have ulterior motive namely transphobia, is pretty tenuous, it would also be absurd to demand evidence of your trans rights activism to prove you are not an anti feminist.
Several times now I've reiterated my position, which is that pointing the finger at closet racists is a diversion from the underlying issues. If issues are lost in the fog of racial or other sensitivities they are allowed to continue. You could imply that this enables racism but that's not a crime there's any hesitance to investigate, and such accusations make up most the thread.
I think the meat industry is abhorrent but not once have criticised Halal slaughter, with or without animal rights as the basis of by views, so this is entirely irrelevant to me defending Halal critics from accusations of racism which by the confused standards of yourself and others simultaneously makes me racist and not.
If I have misunderstood your position, I'm sure you can point me to some of your posts where you defend women's rights and safety without simultaneously digging at a minority?Several times now I've reiterated my position, which is that pointing the finger at closet racists is a diversion from the underlying issues. If issues are lost in the fog of racial or other sensitivities they are allowed to continue. You could imply that this enables racism but that's not a crime there's any hesitance to investigate, and such accusations make up most the thread.
I think the meat industry is abhorrent but not once have criticised Halal slaughter, with or without animal rights as the basis of by views, so this is entirely irrelevant to me defending Halal critics from accusations of racism which by the confused standards of yourself and others simultaneously makes me racist and not.
Can you you direct me to some of your work on behalf of minorities? Because calling out racists and transphobes on the Internet with no basis isn't it, while I'm sure many are facing struggles unconnected to the type of meat they eat or the bathrooms they use.
Do you similarly expect anyone attending a protest to confirm their credentials to ensure no ulterior motive, or does that only apply where there are protected characteristics involved? I wonder whether you take protected characteristics a bit too literally and place them beyond criticism. Accusations of racism were rife in BLM threads and often aimed at those critical of the founder's Marxist views, yet many of those people would have previously spoke of their opposition to Marxism. Was that valid or does all criticism of a minority come from underlying prejudice?
I'm not the one who becomes an SJW as soon as it's convenient for having a go at a minority. If the only time you give a damn about women's rights or safety is when you can use it as a stick to beat Muslims or people who are trans, and otherwise treat anyone protesting about women's rights or safety with the same disdain you routinely apply to anyone protesting about the treatment of minorities, it looks a little insincere/
otolith said:
I'm not the one who becomes an SJW as soon as it's convenient for having a go at a minority. If the only time you give a damn about women's rights or safety is when you can use it as a stick to beat Muslims or people who are trans, and otherwise treat anyone protesting about women's rights or safety with the same disdain you routinely apply to anyone protesting about the treatment of minorities, it looks a little insincere/
Where have I attacked trans people or Muslims or taken the position of SJW?Edited by R Mutt on Tuesday 23 March 09:09
Man who's beaten up his girlfriend and assaults police when they intervene bleats " I am very worried about how women are exploited"
Man who nearly derails the trial of horrible grooming gang says " I am a journalist . . . just showing these people are not being held to account" outside the Court where they are being tried !
Perhaps TR supporters are not racist; they just have a complete lack of self-awareness or irony.
Man who nearly derails the trial of horrible grooming gang says " I am a journalist . . . just showing these people are not being held to account" outside the Court where they are being tried !
Perhaps TR supporters are not racist; they just have a complete lack of self-awareness or irony.
Tommy Robinson supporter quiz
You see a man collecting money for Guide Dogs for the Blind.
He is kicking the dog lying injured on the ground.
Do you think
(a) Not enough people volunteer their time. I'm a supporter of this man.
(b) Whilst collecting for charity is good, that man is a c***
If you answered
(a) Congratulations! You will always support our Tommy. Innit.
(b) Congratulations! You will never fall under the spell of Tommy.
You see a man collecting money for Guide Dogs for the Blind.
He is kicking the dog lying injured on the ground.
Do you think
(a) Not enough people volunteer their time. I'm a supporter of this man.
(b) Whilst collecting for charity is good, that man is a c***
If you answered
(a) Congratulations! You will always support our Tommy. Innit.
(b) Congratulations! You will never fall under the spell of Tommy.
kevinon said:
Tommy Robinson supporter quiz
You see a man collecting money for Guide Dogs for the Blind.
He is kicking the dog lying injured on the ground.
Do you think
(a) Not enough people volunteer their time. I'm a supporter of this man.
(b) Whilst collecting for charity is good, that man is a c***
If you answered
(a) Congratulations! You will always support our Tommy. Innit.
(b) Congratulations! You will never fall under the spell of Tommy.
Are Muslims represented by the injured dog in this strange analogy?You see a man collecting money for Guide Dogs for the Blind.
He is kicking the dog lying injured on the ground.
Do you think
(a) Not enough people volunteer their time. I'm a supporter of this man.
(b) Whilst collecting for charity is good, that man is a c***
If you answered
(a) Congratulations! You will always support our Tommy. Innit.
(b) Congratulations! You will never fall under the spell of Tommy.
Ignore that this is Dustin Hoffman.
It is clear that some think that hiding behind a lamp post - say a metaphor for grooming gangs - renders their true motivation completely invisible.
Hint : everyone can see you. Keeping saying "I'm not really here it's just a lamp post" is not convincing anyone.
Some staggering posts here. Worse and more blatant than I've ever seen. Similar with the unconvincing "indigenous people" lamp post on the other thread.
ReverendCounter said:
When has TR ever demanded that islamic schools be shut down?
But that's exactly what the Sri Lankan government has decided, so are they all 'racist' as well?
Very late reply - but given that Sri Lanka had an ethnically based civil war with minority Tamils, and ISTR got called out for various human rights abuses against Tamils, yes, fair to say the government there is a bit racist...But that's exactly what the Sri Lankan government has decided, so are they all 'racist' as well?
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hstewie said:
It's kind of ironic that he previously attempted to be an illegal immigrant to the US and now he's attempting to be an asylum seeker.hstewie said:Is he going to declare holy war on them next?
Countdown said:
bhstewie said:
It's kind of ironic that he previously attempted to be an illegal immigrant to the US and now he's attempting to be an asylum seeker.hstewie said:Is he going to declare holy war on them next?
TR called those fleeing war in Syria 'fake refugees' 'who should be sent back'. But feels at risk in Luton? Mother of God! Irony overload here.
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