Michael Schumacher hurt skiing

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WestyCarl

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126 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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biggbn said:
WestyCarl said:
p1stonhead said:
I think the GoPro thing was debunked or at least denied at the time. Not sure if it ever went further.

Extraordinarily unlucky if that is what contributed. Loads and loads of people on the slopes wear them.
I read some similar items, except that the propoer go pro mount wasn't used. Won't mention details here as I have no idea if correct or not.
You just kinda did?
No, not the "supposed" details.

Vickers_VC10

6,759 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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rigga said:
Only Welshbeef could post something like that .......
You mean the guy who wouldn't shut up about Daley Matteson's crash and death at the TT? Even though everyone on that thread told him to?

Yeah can't see why he'd post this at all...

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Wow you got out of bed on the wrong side buddy.
Nothing to do with getting out of bed on the wrong side pal.

It's just my patience for attention-seeking muppets is practically zero.

It's less than zero when it's on a thread such as this, and from the comment above I see you have form for it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Vickers_VC10 said:
rigga said:
Only Welshbeef could post something like that .......
You mean the guy who wouldn't shut up about Daley Matteson's crash and death at the TT? Even though everyone on that thread told him to?

Yeah can't see why he'd post this at all...
This thread is about the crash and his recovery back in 2013.

Odd you posted this to me and yet another poster further up flagged they had been there and seen a lot of blood - why didn’t you deride that person?


As for another poster not concerned about what speed people ski at why didn’t that poster nail those discussing the helmets and that at 20mph it’s essentially useless. Don’t get it - maybe you hopped onto the last poster rather than all who had discussed the helmet and speed.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Hosenbugler said:
Back just after this accident happened there was a poster in these forums with professional experience of dealing with head injuries explaining the severity of MS's brain damage.I cannot recall all the specifics now, but a key pointer to the severity being the depth of the injuries within the brain. I suppose the posts must be on here somewhere, and the key to his/her observations were brain scans from the hospital treating MS.

I well recall seeing the accident scene after he had been taken to hospital, and was shocked at the amount of blood in the snow, and thinking , thats fatal surely? The fact that his helmet was split in half helped to endorse that view.

I really would like to take a positive view of matters, but there is part of my mind that has thought from the early days of the accident, that it would been the best for all, particularly MS if we had been reading an obituary the day after. The obsessive secrecy over him by family does seem extreme and it does make you wonder if its in his wider best interest.
Unfortunately I have had experience of a friend with catastrophic brain damage kept alive , basically for the sake of it, by a family member who could not face up to the fact of the matter, or face the responsiblity of acting for the best interest of the patient and not themselves. Not saying that MS's case is as severe, but I'd wager it's not a mile away from it. It's all very , very sad.

This is the post in case anyone is asking.

So given you derided next talking about speeds is all comfortably beyond 20mph safe limit for the helmet vs going to the site and finding lots of blood.

Sometimes it does make you think some posters just want to hint others down and deride them which is a shame if that does happen & pretty sad

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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untakenname said:
robinessex said:
Attaching a Go Pro, or similar, to your helmet with Velcro works well. Almost any blow will remove, it without creating any dangerous forces.
I'd rather have a secure mount and run the slightly increased risk of injury than lose £500 worth of camera from a slight glancing blow tbh.

It's a shame that Gopro haven't continued their Session form factor as they were ideally suited to mounting on helmets.
That's what a tether is for. The Drift that I use on my helmet has a tether attachment as part of the case, so I mount the camera on the side of my lid, and pass the chinstrap through the tether loop so it can't get lost.

I just use the GoPro for drone stuff as that's what fits the gimbal.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
This is the post in case anyone is asking.

So given you derided next talking about speeds is all comfortably beyond 20mph safe limit for the helmet vs going to the site and finding lots of blood.

Sometimes it does make you think some posters just want to hint others down and deride them which is a shame if that does happen & pretty sad
Seeing a photo of the aftermath and commenting on it is not the same as "I MIGHT once have been near the site at some point a long time after the incident in question ".

It's an utterly pointless comment to make.

Whenever I see your name mentioned on this site it's ALWAYS in a derogatory sense. I wonder why... scratchchin

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Centurion07 said:
Seeing a photo of the aftermath and commenting on it is not the same as "I MIGHT once have been near the site at some point a long time after the incident in question ".

It's an utterly pointless comment to make.

Whenever I see your name mentioned on this site it's ALWAYS in a derogatory sense. I wonder why... scratchchin
Why is skiing in Meribel and likely past previous incidents is neither here or there & certainly not worth getting out of bed the wrong side as you’ve utterly taken a post the wrong way.

Suggest we leave this now

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Gladly.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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garyhun said:
You’ve been posting dross for a lot longer than lockdown though.

There’s a filter normally found between the brain and the mouth, or the brain and the fingers in this case. I suggest you get yours checked because it appears faulty.
Are you ever going to stop I wonder or do you try to always get the last word in ?

CAPP0

19,605 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
garyhun said:
You’ve been posting dross for a lot longer than lockdown though.

There’s a filter normally found between the brain and the mouth, or the brain and the fingers in this case. I suggest you get yours checked because it appears faulty.
Are you ever going to stop I wonder or do you try to always get the last word in ?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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CAPP0 said:
wink.

Digger

14,705 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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CAPP0 said:
Welshbeef said:
garyhun said:
You’ve been posting dross for a lot longer than lockdown though.

There’s a filter normally found between the brain and the mouth, or the brain and the fingers in this case. I suggest you get yours checked because it appears faulty.
Are you ever going to stop I wonder or do you try to always get the last word in ?
I quite enjoy his random brain farts. No offence to the chap of course. . . smile

DarthtaterM16

913 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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He was absolutely vile last year in the isle of man TT thread after Daley Mathison was killed too. Desperately trying to find out all the gory details.

You're a rubber-necking weirdo buddy. Everybody told you so in that thread too.

Digger

14,705 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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The above I was unaware of!

Tom Logan

3,228 posts

126 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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My point exactly, perhaps I didn't make it clearly enough.

I've raced in the MGP and amwell aware of the possible consequences if it should go wrong and for a goon like him to continually press for the details of a fatal is disgusting.

Tom Logan said:
Vickers_VC10 said:
rigga said:
Only Welshbeef could post something like that .......
You mean the guy who wouldn't shut up about Daley Matteson's crash and death at the TT? Even though everyone on that thread told him to?

Yeah can't see why he'd post this at all...
I just found that thread and had a read. Christ, this guy is 'on the spectrum' for sure, no disrespect intended to anyone else who is of course.

His comments on there are extremely morbid and for me he should have been reported to the mods and at least banned from the thread and his posts removed.

Disgraceful.
DarthtaterM16 said:
He was absolutely vile last year in the isle of man TT thread after Daley Mathison was killed too. Desperately trying to find out all the gory details.

You're a rubber-necking weirdo buddy. Everybody told you so in that thread too.
Sorry to go O/T but I feel it needed to be said.

DarthtaterM16

913 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Tom Logan said:
My point exactly, perhaps I didn't make it clearly enough.

I've raced in the MGP and amwell aware of the possible consequences if it should go wrong and for a goon like him to continually press for the details of a fatal is disgusting.

Tom Logan said:
Vickers_VC10 said:
rigga said:
Only Welshbeef could post something like that .......
You mean the guy who wouldn't shut up about Daley Matteson's crash and death at the TT? Even though everyone on that thread told him to?

Yeah can't see why he'd post this at all...
I just found that thread and had a read. Christ, this guy is 'on the spectrum' for sure, no disrespect intended to anyone else who is of course.

His comments on there are extremely morbid and for me he should have been reported to the mods and at least banned from the thread and his posts removed.

Disgraceful.
DarthtaterM16 said:
He was absolutely vile last year in the isle of man TT thread after Daley Mathison was killed too. Desperately trying to find out all the gory details.

You're a rubber-necking weirdo buddy. Everybody told you so in that thread too.
Sorry to go O/T but I feel it needed to be said.
Fully understandable.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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No I utterly disagree.

I asked where and how did it happen - as in was it a kerb manhole or could it have been mechanical failure.

Clearly you are all more than happy to get into the A Senna accident and tragic loss just like clearly everyone who was involved with the documentary of it. Or how about the countless other tragic motorsport deaths.

This is not rubber necking and to suggest it is is disrespectful.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/a...

BBC sky and god only knows all the other broadcasters we’d this live then countless replays. Those broadcasters are vile rubber Neckers clearly and the commentators am who kept discussing how it happened etc must also be.


I don’t get how some consider some motorsport tragic accidents not open for discussion yet everything else is. Strange really

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Tom Logan said:
I just found that thread and had a read. Christ, this guy is 'on the spectrum' for sure, no disrespect intended to anyone else who is of course.

His comments on there are extremely morbid and for me he should have been reported to the mods and at least banned from the thread and his posts removed.

Disgraceful.
Sadly you’ve taken quotes out of context.

How did it happen
Why did it happen
Was it faulty or failed parts
How can we stop it happening again.

But given the. Above you’ll not believe that will you - as you were then.
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