Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"
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SpeckledJim said:
Willy Nilly said:
Borroxs said:
Willy Nilly said:
SpeckledJim said:
Willy Nilly said:
There was a bloke on the wireless today from the search organisation (they found the Air France plane) and he said if they are give the area the plane is in they will find it.
Well, yeah. Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
"tell me where it is, ish, and I will find it" is totally meaningless.
SpeckledJim said:
Well, yeah.
Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
Exactly, but I think the point Willy Nilly was making, and the guy from the search and rescue team,,was that if the authorities and Malaysia Airlines actual lifted the ring of steel that have around the location information that they have it would be easy to locate.Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
Several,of my pilot buddies know other Commercial,Pilots who have been " gagged by Malaysia airlines " because they knowmto much about the information that is known, but not made public.
Of course that could all be the usual tin foil hat conspiracy therories too, but the pilots I know are all commercial, captains, for major airlines, one of them a Middle East airllije too, and are not normally given to believing in crackpots!
Willy Nilly said:
SpeckledJim said:
Willy Nilly said:
Borroxs said:
Willy Nilly said:
SpeckledJim said:
Willy Nilly said:
There was a bloke on the wireless today from the search organisation (they found the Air France plane) and he said if they are give the area the plane is in they will find it.
Well, yeah. Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
"tell me where it is, ish, and I will find it" is totally meaningless.
Never mind.
nigelpugh7 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Well, yeah.
Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
Exactly, but I think the point Willy Nilly was making, and the guy from the search and rescue team,,was that if the authorities and Malaysia Airlines actual lifted the ring of steel that have around the location information that they have it would be easy to locate.Tell me which room you are in, and I will find you.
Several,of my pilot buddies know other Commercial,Pilots who have been " gagged by Malaysia airlines " because they knowmto much about the information that is known, but not made public.
Of course that could all be the usual tin foil hat conspiracy therories too, but the pilots I know are all commercial, captains, for major airlines, one of them a Middle East airllije too, and are not normally given to believing in crackpots!
And that if the Malaysians 'fess up, and hand over the data then the chap who found the AF plane will come and find it?
Sounds pretty straight-forward, who do we need to sue?
SpeckledJim said:
The suggestion being that the Malaysians (and some other pilots) know the Australians were looking in the wrong area?
And that if the Malaysians 'fess up, and hand over the data then the chap who found the AF plane will come and find it?
Sounds pretty straight-forward, who do we need to sue?
That's pretty close to what I have heard in certain discussions.And that if the Malaysians 'fess up, and hand over the data then the chap who found the AF plane will come and find it?
Sounds pretty straight-forward, who do we need to sue?
I know a lot of it is to do with the Malaysians not wanting to loose face because they kept what they really know about Captain Shah hidden from both Press and the next of kin.
Although am I not right in thinking that once they declared the search over, and all souls lost, the process for awarding claims and compensation to the relatives and families will start?
Would it be differnt if the world found out that the truth was something like Captian Shah had planned for a long time to crash a plane full,of passengers, as an example of another outcome?.
sparks_E39 said:
The Spruce goose said:
B17NNS said:
It'll be a Titanic type situation I imagine. In years to come technology will improve and it may be found eventually.
Really I imagine everyday more of the plane is disappearing and will most likely never be found.titantic was fuelled by American money in the serach.
the truth is it cost money to search and unless someone privately comes up with it, and I would say you would be looking at hundreds of million to start it all again then it won't happen.
my thought was some sort of particle analysis machine taking samples at points in the ocean and trying to pinpoint the plane. there must be a chemical signature the plane must give off as it decays.
the truth is it cost money to search and unless someone privately comes up with it, and I would say you would be looking at hundreds of million to start it all again then it won't happen.
my thought was some sort of particle analysis machine taking samples at points in the ocean and trying to pinpoint the plane. there must be a chemical signature the plane must give off as it decays.
The Spruce goose said:
my thought was some sort of particle analysis machine taking samples at points in the ocean and trying to pinpoint the plane. there must be a chemical signature the plane must give off as it decays.
Does such a thing exist, or are you imagining it? And if it does, it must have to be able to detect 1 part in several billion.AdeTuono said:
The Spruce goose said:
my thought was some sort of particle analysis machine taking samples at points in the ocean and trying to pinpoint the plane. there must be a chemical signature the plane must give off as it decays.
Does such a thing exist, or are you imagining it? And if it does, it must have to be able to detect 1 part in several billion.It will only be found by looking real hard or by total accident. As no ne is really looking at this piece of the planet - no oil prospecting etc, I can't see it ever being found by accident.
nigelpugh7 said:
SpeckledJim said:
The suggestion being that the Malaysians (and some other pilots) know the Australians were looking in the wrong area?
And that if the Malaysians 'fess up, and hand over the data then the chap who found the AF plane will come and find it?
Sounds pretty straight-forward, who do we need to sue?
That's pretty close to what I have heard in certain discussions.And that if the Malaysians 'fess up, and hand over the data then the chap who found the AF plane will come and find it?
Sounds pretty straight-forward, who do we need to sue?
I know a lot of it is to do with the Malaysians not wanting to loose face because they kept what they really know about Captain Shah hidden from both Press and the next of kin.
Although am I not right in thinking that once they declared the search over, and all souls lost, the process for awarding claims and compensation to the relatives and families will start?
Would it be differnt if the world found out that the truth was something like Captian Shah had planned for a long time to crash a plane full,of passengers, as an example of another outcome?.
eldar said:
Trump did it?
well he became president despite hundreds of "experts" laughing about that possibility and writing endless articles how that's simply impossible to happenwe have similar happening with so called AGW, they have made a religion out of it despite it's getting more and more obvious it's just bks
AreOut said:
well he became president despite hundreds of "experts" laughing about that possibility and writing endless articles how that's simply impossible to happen
we have similar happening with so called AGW, they have made a religion out of it despite it's getting more and more obvious it's just bks
And some of those same experts predicted a Trump win. However, that was dealing with predictions, rather than evidence. we have similar happening with so called AGW, they have made a religion out of it despite it's getting more and more obvious it's just bks
It is bks that 15 record breaking global annual average temperatures have happened since 2000?
The lost plane and its passengers are extremely unlikely to be found, so we will be unlikely to discover any more solid evidence that adds to what we already know.
Plenty of scope for conspiracies, though.
AreOut said:
AdeTuono said:
If only they'd listened to AreOut....
there ego is too big for that, we've seen how "expert" analysis disregarding common sense and leaning on meaningless theories worked in predicting US elections, same happened hereAreOut said:
there ego is too big for that, we've seen how "expert" analysis disregarding common sense and leaning on meaningless theories worked in predicting US elections, same happened here
Did you ever hear back from the investigators in a meaningful way, after sending them your hypothesis?eldar said:
It is bks that 15 record breaking global annual average temperatures have happened since 2000?
by how much? we measure temperature for a total of century or so, it's a very short period and measurements are somehow always corrected to show AGW, not to mention stations positioned in urban areas (more people/cars/density = higher local temp)El stovey said:
You haven't been talking common sense.
then how come literally everything that came up during these 2 years corroborated my theory?1. Independent drift analysis by australian oceanographers - check
2. The plane not found in the searched area - check
3. ATSB accepting that plane must be north of the search area - check
4. Confirmation that captain was often searching for detailed description of accidents on Internet which possibly made him try to replicate ethiopian hijacking(s) (that I mentioned only as a possibility) - check
5. Testimony of 6 Swiss Citizens making a cruise between Perth and Singapore via Jakarta, spotting debris on March 12 while approaching the Sunda Strait(not even paid attention by officials because it didn't fit their pet theory) - check
6. Indonesian claim that no unidentified plane crossed their airspace (not compatible with searched area, compatible with mine) - check
7. No debris at all on australian coast - check
8. Deleting PC documents before the first flight to Penang before MH370 (which proves that he had the same idea before, just wasn't ready to execute) - check
and there is more but I can't remember, literally everything that came up after they started the search showed they were just disturbing the fish and throwing $180M of taxpayers money in the ocean
SpeckledJim said:
Are you the chap who suggested the plane might be in space?
nope, just that Captain diverted the flight to embarrass malaysian government that he hated so much and possibly tried to reach Australia(being it Christmas Island or mainland) and request asylum or whatever, crashing on the way because unplanned events happened on boardVaud said:
Did you ever hear back from the investigators in a meaningful way, after sending them your hypothesis?
Nah, they obviously didn't want to stray from their straight path to nowhere theory.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff