Meanwhile in Turkey
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Patrick Bateman said:
Muntu said:
Not sure that what the gunman did for a living is relevant
He was shouting the allah ackbar business while he was doing it.
Not noteworthy at all that the man was a policeman and appeared to be part of the security detail?He was shouting the allah ackbar business while he was doing it.
From the sounds of the radio news this morning it sounds as if Russia is not blaming Turkey, which is probably good. Though who knows what goes on in the backrooms.
BBC also at great pains not to mention certain Arabic phrases which were shouted, just the bits in Turkish. One of their field correspondents mentioned it once, but it's quite deliberately left out of all other mentions of the subject. How unusual.
BBC also at great pains not to mention certain Arabic phrases which were shouted, just the bits in Turkish. One of their field correspondents mentioned it once, but it's quite deliberately left out of all other mentions of the subject. How unusual.
BlackLabel said:
What a scene - it's like something out of the movies.
edit - photo taken by AP photographer Burhan Ozbilici who continued his work in the face of this.
Looks like a scene from a bollywood movie, looks like they never bad time to squirt some tomatoe Katchup around body. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I just seen a cnn clip of the shooting, it looks bizarre. edit - photo taken by AP photographer Burhan Ozbilici who continued his work in the face of this.
Edited by BlackLabel on Monday 19th December 19:06
Seems crazy that people would actually vote to give one person so much power like this. Turkeys aren't meant to vote for Xmas.
Telegraph said:
The vote will decide whether to transform the position of Turkish president from a largely ceremonial role to a position with vast power as both the head of state and the head of government.
A Yes vote would scrap the role of prime minister and give Mr Erdoğan powers to appoint senior judges, dissolve parliament, declare a state of emergency and in some cases make law by decree.
Under the new system, Mr Erdoğan could theoretically remain in power until 2029. He first took office as prime minister in 2003 and has dominated Turkish politics ever since.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/16/turkey-votes-historic-referendum-giveerdogan-sweeping-new-powers/amp/A Yes vote would scrap the role of prime minister and give Mr Erdoğan powers to appoint senior judges, dissolve parliament, declare a state of emergency and in some cases make law by decree.
Under the new system, Mr Erdoğan could theoretically remain in power until 2029. He first took office as prime minister in 2003 and has dominated Turkish politics ever since.
What's up with the Turks - are they nuts or what.
This is a move away from democracy and freedom, and a move towards a stricter Islamic state with a nutter in charge. Like Iran.
That puts a complete and utter end to Turkey's EU membership chances tgen. But I guess he knew that 12 months ago.
This is a move away from democracy and freedom, and a move towards a stricter Islamic state with a nutter in charge. Like Iran.
That puts a complete and utter end to Turkey's EU membership chances tgen. But I guess he knew that 12 months ago.
Yet another crazy vote result, after Brexit and Trump.
Erdogan has sacked about 100k and jailed 40k anti-Erdogan civilian and military staff since last year's coup.
Usually, the military would stage another coup and oust him. But most of his friends now run the military.
He has played a good game of eliminating opponents and controlling the media message.
Erdogan has sacked about 100k and jailed 40k anti-Erdogan civilian and military staff since last year's coup.
Usually, the military would stage another coup and oust him. But most of his friends now run the military.
He has played a good game of eliminating opponents and controlling the media message.
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