Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
NoNeed said:
pcvdriver said:
It's not a case of enumerating the many decisions, but more the fact of the very principle that we currently have to ask to do so from Westminster, that does not sit well with me. So I welcome an independent Scotland that is free from any such encumbrances.
But you are in favour of a currency union!!!You do know that would involve a joint monetary policy don't you. You know where limits are set on spending and borrowing and other stuff such as interest rates.
That would involve seeking permission form the other if you want to operate outside of those set limits no matter how good the cause.
This is why I don't think there would ever be a currency union as I don't believe Westminster would like a small neighbouring country no matter how friendly to be deciding it's monetary policies, it rejected Europe's attempt at the same thing and they are far more valuable to the UK than what Scotland would be.
But back to the point, you may find that Westminster could interfere even more with a union that what they bother to now, how is that independence? And how would you be free if there was a union?
Why would the UK accept a currency union with Scotland? It would just allow Scottish politicians to continue to blame Westminster for any Scottish problems.
McWigglebum4th said:
Well drop it then and fk up westminister
I can see how your mind works now Wiggly, you're just a nasty little minded individual, who will stoop at nothing to stir the proverbial, aren't you? You should be made to lick the spoon when it's all over.....We're not trying to achieve independence in order to "fk up Westminster" to utilise such infragrant, yet colourful prose of yours......merely in order to aspire to having a better run country.
If the SNP hadn't been doing such a Sterling job since taking power, they would not be getting the benefit of the doubt in any future elections, by my good self.
I am not a party member, or even supporter of the SNP, they are merely the bunch I distrust least out of all the charlatans who currently seek to be returned to office.
I agree the SNP are doing a sterling job on marketing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_04_1...
Wombat3 said:
Spot on - Scotland may well not have voted for a Tory Gov't - but then the South East didn't vote for 13 years of the idiots Bliar & Brooon...
There again, Scotland IS a country in its own right - The Sarf-East isn't...... even though they have more than enough people to fill one.......but perhaps too many to be crammed into such a postage stamp sized piece of real estate.OpulentBob said:
OT.
Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
Might be that a few Scots members on here drive Vipers..... Just a thought!!! I used to drive buses, before moving on to pointing and shouting at drivers to get out of the depot on time. Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
pcvdriver said:
Wombat3 said:
Spot on - Scotland may well not have voted for a Tory Gov't - but then the South East didn't vote for 13 years of the idiots Bliar & Brooon...
There again, Scotland IS a country in its own right - The Sarf-East isn't...... even though they have more than enough people to fill one.......but perhaps too many to be crammed into such a postage stamp sized piece of real estate.barryrs said:
I agree the SNP are doing a sterling job on marketing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_04_1...
They are yes, I'm sure the failings are because of Westminster.simoid said:
When UKIP are negotiating Scotland's entry to the EU?
They'll need some MPs first of all......over 306 to make a difference. There again, North of the border, they'll actually need to keep a deposit first of all....and there's about as much chance of that happening as Jimmy Savile being posthumously exonerated for all of his vile acts.pcvdriver said:
They'll need some MPs first of all......over 306 to make a difference. There again, North of the border, they'll actually need to keep a deposit first of all....and there's about as much chance of that happening as Jimmy Savile being posthumously exonerated for all of his vile acts.
I think you rather missed my point pcvdriver said:
OpulentBob said:
OT.
Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
Might be that a few Scots members on here drive Vipers..... Just a thought!!! I used to drive buses, before moving on to pointing and shouting at drivers to get out of the depot on time. Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
My point was together we are stronger not perfect but stronger. Seperate there will always
Be a weaker partner (according to evening standard today londons gdp is greater than twice gdp of scotland and wales combined) and in the event of a yes vote negociations will favour the stronger party.
why do some find that hard to understand. Scotland are being sold a lie example "14th richest nation in the world" versus being the sixth (except the posters don't tell you curently we are 6th). Its really ok to be independant (sorry wiggly) all the best to scotland if they choose that, but please understand what you are loosing and make sure the so called
Gains are true.
Be a weaker partner (according to evening standard today londons gdp is greater than twice gdp of scotland and wales combined) and in the event of a yes vote negociations will favour the stronger party.
why do some find that hard to understand. Scotland are being sold a lie example "14th richest nation in the world" versus being the sixth (except the posters don't tell you curently we are 6th). Its really ok to be independant (sorry wiggly) all the best to scotland if they choose that, but please understand what you are loosing and make sure the so called
Gains are true.
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