Teacher Stabbed to Death

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McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Funk said:
The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.
As its cheaper then topping him

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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So what of the friend who he told the plan to? Was it the same one he told at Xmas eve?

Surely some form of accessory?

bitchstewie

51,481 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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s3fella said:
So what of the friend who he told the plan to? Was it the same one he told at Xmas eve?

Surely some form of accessory?
It's always easy to say with hindsight but if you took every 15 year old who said they were going to kill their teacher or the school bully seriously you'd be locking up a lot o people.

What could you realistically do?

ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Funk said:
The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.
As its cheaper then topping him
I'll pay to kill the little st

carinaman

21,333 posts

173 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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bhstewie said:
It's always easy to say with hindsight but if you took every 15 year old who said they were going to kill their teacher or the school bully seriously you'd be locking up a lot o people.

What could you realistically do?
Has the media reported it that he told some of the other pupils he was going to do it and showed them the knife in his bag?

If that's true why didn't they mention it to somebody? 'All it takes for evil to succeed is a few good men to do nothing.....

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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I know a teacher at the school who was there when this happened and knew the student.

He was normal, had quite a lot of friends but he was pretty quiet. His family wasn't broken and his upbringing was typical. Most of the information in the article is accurate although it seems to paint him as a known weirdo. He wasn't.

The teacher also had her best friend die in a car crash that was discussed at length on PH too. Poor girl frown

krunchkin

2,209 posts

142 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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This will get the PHers frothing. Check out the first post in the comments...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/...

croyde

22,986 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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What a clusterfek of an individual. Very disturbing reading.

If he were my son, I'd have nothing more to do with him and I say that as a father of 3.

Can't imagine what his family have been and are going through.

HTP99

22,606 posts

141 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Odd as there were no real signs of an unhinged young man apart from the usual "I hate my teacher" musings that many teenagers have.

Going a bit OT here:

A young lad in my daughters form class murdered his stepdad last year with the help of his brother, they stabbed him when he was asleep on the sofa, he would have been 14 or just 15.

The circumstances there were that the stepdad constantly abused and beat up the mum and the boys had had enough, they were convited of murder because they planned it and did it when he was sleeping, now if they had killed him when he was beating the mum up then most likely there would have been a different outcome.

Anyway my daughter said he was an ok guy, he had friends, wasn't popular but also wasn't a loner, just a normal boy.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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ali_kat said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Funk said:
The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.
As its cheaper then topping him
I'll pay to kill the little st
Then you are no better than he is.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Justice campaigner says 20-year sentence handed to Ann Maguire's schoolboy killer is too long because it is more than his own lifetime

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Edited by Saddle bum on Tuesday 4th November 10:45

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Saddle bum said:
Justice campaigner says 20-year sentence handed to Ann Maguire's schoolboy killer is too long because it is more than his own lifetime

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I was just about to post that some fking do-gooder was banging on about the sentence being 'too harsh'

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Saddle bum said:
Justice campaigner says 20-year sentence handed to Ann Maguire's schoolboy killer is too long because it is more than his own lifetime

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You haven't put a link in.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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hornetrider said:
Saddle bum said:
Justice campaigner says 20-year sentence handed to Ann Maguire's schoolboy killer is too long because it is more than his own lifetime

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You haven't put a link in.
Fixed it...............

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Bluebarge said:
ali_kat said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Funk said:
The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.
As its cheaper then topping him
I'll pay to kill the little st
Then you are no better than he is.
I don't understand how you come to that conclusion.

How is killing a killer who killed an innocent person as bad as killing an innocent person?

I don't think its justified by any means and I don't agree with it. But it certainlty doesn't make them as bad

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
Bluebarge said:
ali_kat said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Funk said:
The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.
As its cheaper then topping him
I'll pay to kill the little st
Then you are no better than he is.
I don't understand how you come to that conclusion.

How is killing a killer who killed an innocent person as bad as killing an innocent person?

I don't think its justified by any means and I don't agree with it. But it certainlty doesn't make them as bad
Because he has no right to commit murder. If you intentionally kill a murderer, you are a murderer. That's the law.

Even if it were legal, wanting to kill someone (because they have done wrong) doesn't really separate you from the person who killed in the first place; you are just giving yourself a different justification for doing so whilst getting identical satisfaction from the act of killing.

In peacetime no-one has the right to kill anyone except in self-defence. That doesn't apply here.

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Saddle bum said:
Justice campaigner says 20-year sentence handed to Ann Maguire's schoolboy killer is too long because it is more than his own lifetime

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Edited by Saddle bum on Tuesday 4th November 10:45
Had to listen to this nonsense on R4 this morning. Honestly of all the worthy causes who in their right mind would waste their time arguing in support of this scum.


Foppo

2,344 posts

125 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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He is lucky he got twenty years he be out in ten.What possessed a young kid of fifteen to do this is beyond me.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Foppo said:
He is lucky he got twenty years he be out in ten.What possessed a young kid of fifteen to do this is beyond me.
Psychologist on radio this morning suggested either some kind of psychopathy or personality disorder which he's unlikely to ever "recover" from and unlikely to ever be released with or some kind of extreme nihilistic depression episode which he may "recover" from.

It's easier to just call him a though.

The .

ukbabz

1,551 posts

127 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Foppo said:
He is lucky he got twenty years he be out in ten.What possessed a young kid of fifteen to do this is beyond me.
It was a 20 year minimum sentence, he can't get out in less than that unless his sentence is reduced.