Interest rates going up soon...

Interest rates going up soon...

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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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“UK inflation set to hit five-year high, raising heat on interest rates
Experts predict figure of 3% for September, adding to pressure on Bank of England to hike rates for first time in decade”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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An increase in Interest Rates would actually be good for me.

We're mortgage free and have savings. Not much return on them at the moment.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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BlackLabel said:
“UK inflation set to hit five-year high, raising heat on interest rates
Experts predict figure of 3% for September, adding to pressure on Bank of England to hike rates for first time in decade”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
Problem is that most of that inflation is due to various issues with the pound post brexit and many observers now think we are at the tail end of that and inflation will fall. If we raise rates now it would lead to a fall in demand and that’s the last thing the economy needs right now. The committee are stuck between a rock and a hard place but I think they will wait to see what happens with inflation and then if there is the need for a rise it will be in January.

menousername

2,108 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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craigjm said:
Problem is that most of that inflation is due to various issues with the pound post brexit and many observers now think we are at the tail end of that and inflation will fall. If we raise rates now it would lead to a fall in demand and that’s the last thing the economy needs right now. The committee are stuck between a rock and a hard place but I think they will wait to see what happens with inflation and then if there is the need for a rise it will be in January.
I read that BoE expect it to continue to increase a bit further. Oil being the main driver.

And that downward pressure on clothes and air fares are what kept it down to 3% this time.



craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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menousername said:
I read that BoE expect it to continue to increase a bit further. Oil being the main driver.

And that downward pressure on clothes and air fares are what kept it down to 3% this time.
I guess we will see soon enough

mondeoman

Original Poster:

11,430 posts

266 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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Fuel prices rose during September, are now going back down.

Where is the wage inflation, the real driver of inflation rates. No wage rises, no one can afford interest rate rises, no matter what figure inflation hits.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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“The Bank of England will deliver one of the most closely watched interest rate decisions since the financial crisis later on Thursday.

Economists and investors are expecting the first increase in a decade.”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...

So

26,287 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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BlackLabel said:
“The Bank of England will deliver one of the most closely watched interest rate decisions since the financial crisis later on Thursday.

Economists and investors are expecting the first increase in a decade.”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
They can't not put them up, can they?

They've been saying they will, the data iss there and it's just before Christmas.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Don said:
An increase in Interest Rates would actually be good for me.

We're mortgage free and have savings. Not much return on them at the moment.
Likewise - when I had a mortgage I was paying 15 - 16% interest. Have no mortgage now but have some savings that I'm making nothing on - so get them rates up

So

26,287 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Bigends said:
Don said:
An increase in Interest Rates would actually be good for me.

We're mortgage free and have savings. Not much return on them at the moment.
Likewise - when I had a mortgage I was paying 15 - 16% interest. Have no mortgage now but have some savings that I'm making nothing on - so get them rates up
I don't think you should rely upon any meaningful rises in the near future. If we see a rise today, it will be largely symbolic I think and you can look forward to losing it again, probably as a result of Brexit.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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So said:
Bigends said:
Don said:
An increase in Interest Rates would actually be good for me.

We're mortgage free and have savings. Not much return on them at the moment.
Likewise - when I had a mortgage I was paying 15 - 16% interest. Have no mortgage now but have some savings that I'm making nothing on - so get them rates up
I don't think you should rely upon any meaningful rises in the near future. If we see a rise today, it will be largely symbolic I think and you can look forward to losing it again, probably as a result of Brexit.
Yes, quite possibly so, with the outlook worsened by prolonged negative sentiment

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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So said:
They can't not put them up, can they?

They've been saying they will, the data iss there and it's just before Christmas.
this seems the case. Sterling has priced it in.

One can only hope they'll go further in the coming months.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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If true it will knock the stuffing out of people's christmas spending plans if they think the mortgage is going up in the new year...

Chris Type R

8,028 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Jimboka said:
I took out a tracker in around 2008 with IF. BOE + .59% for the life of the mortgage. No floor.
I guess i'm costing them money.
No point in paying it off now (savings so could clear it) unless they will cut a deal & knock something off!
Do such lenders offer a reduction, for early settlement ?
I was also with IF - it's okay as long as you don't have to move / extend your borrowing. Despite being "transportable", it wasn't of much use when we up-sized. We took out our first mortgage with them in 2004 - on balance they must have made a profit.

BoRED S2upid

19,701 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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So said:
BlackLabel said:
“The Bank of England will deliver one of the most closely watched interest rate decisions since the financial crisis later on Thursday.

Economists and investors are expecting the first increase in a decade.”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
They can't not put them up, can they?

They've been saying they will, the data iss there and it's just before Christmas.
Surely they must go up this time sitting on that committee must be the easiest job in the world not doing anything every single quarter.

turbobloke

103,956 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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0 or 25 basis points anyone?!

So

26,287 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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turbobloke said:
0 or 25 basis points anyone?!
25bp today.

Chris Type R

8,028 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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25bp I think.

BoRED S2upid

19,701 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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0 again then off for a nice lunch.

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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turbobloke said:
0 or 25 basis points anyone?!
Hoping for 50 but that maybe too much of a shock for those that are living life on the never never.

50 points would give the economy an amount of room for maneuver if the EU wish to punish us in the brexit divorce.

25 points is more or less the status quo.

But 25 points is better than nothing. Its a start.