ebola, anyone else mildly terrified?
Discussion
bosshog said:
..praying its the second...
Thing is, as something as deadly as this, surely cost of doing more now outweighs the cost/risk even if nothing too bad comes of it. If they get it wrong it will be total disaster for the Uk and world at large. Its seems such a no brainer for me. I know they spent god knows what on the vaccines for swine flu, which didn't mount to much, but what if it did - they would have save 100,000 of lives. With something as deadly as this I don't get it.
They didn't buy enough for everyone, although I forget exactly what proportion of the population it would theoretically cover. It wasn't a vaccine either, it was that tamiflu bks. Profitable for the maker.Thing is, as something as deadly as this, surely cost of doing more now outweighs the cost/risk even if nothing too bad comes of it. If they get it wrong it will be total disaster for the Uk and world at large. Its seems such a no brainer for me. I know they spent god knows what on the vaccines for swine flu, which didn't mount to much, but what if it did - they would have save 100,000 of lives. With something as deadly as this I don't get it.
otolith said:
The military must have more people trained and equipped to work safely in a hot environment than anyone else.
Trogging about in a giant green condom and a respirator isn't really the same as dealing with leaky and contagious patients using a barrier protocol.arguti said:
XJ Flyer said:
turbobloke said:
Given that successive 'expert' scientific advisers have indirectly led to the deaths of thousands of vulnerable UK residents already due to the UK's nonsensical energy policy increasing the cost of energy for fairytale reasons, there's no basis for believing they should perform any better with a virus particularly bearing in mind what's happened with FMD in the past.
The difference in the case of foot and mouth being that they don't generally add to the risks of spread by not imposing travel restrictions on the affected areas.From an NHS perspective, the costs of having sufficient resources (from construction of adequate facilities, equipment procurement and staff training)to handle a substantial outbreak is mind boggling -without military backup I can't see it happening in the short term.
The idea of then trading the extra risk of an animal limited disease like foot and mouth,by way of movement,to reduce the risk of another like BSE,which kills humans,seems logical in that case.
However the inconsistency and contradiction between the knowledge that isolation and movement restrictions are an essential component in limiting the spread of contagious diseases like foot and mouth,as opposed to government policy in this case,is the unbelievable relevant issue in this case.
Update on the Washington Post article says she doesn't have a passport.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2...
Like the self-quarantined cruise passenger this does seem like an attention seeker bonanza.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2...
Like the self-quarantined cruise passenger this does seem like an attention seeker bonanza.
All four patients suspected of having Ebola in Spain have been cleared.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/17/two-s...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/17/two-s...
hidetheelephants said:
bosshog said:
..praying its the second...
Thing is, as something as deadly as this, surely cost of doing more now outweighs the cost/risk even if nothing too bad comes of it. If they get it wrong it will be total disaster for the Uk and world at large. Its seems such a no brainer for me. I know they spent god knows what on the vaccines for swine flu, which didn't mount to much, but what if it did - they would have save 100,000 of lives. With something as deadly as this I don't get it.
They didn't buy enough for everyone, although I forget exactly what proportion of the population it would theoretically cover. It wasn't a vaccine either, it was that tamiflu bks. Profitable for the maker.Thing is, as something as deadly as this, surely cost of doing more now outweighs the cost/risk even if nothing too bad comes of it. If they get it wrong it will be total disaster for the Uk and world at large. Its seems such a no brainer for me. I know they spent god knows what on the vaccines for swine flu, which didn't mount to much, but what if it did - they would have save 100,000 of lives. With something as deadly as this I don't get it.
otolith said:
The military must have more people trained and equipped to work safely in a hot environment than anyone else.
Trogging about in a giant green condom and a respirator isn't really the same as dealing with leaky and contagious patients using a barrier protocol.And the prize for the Biggest tt Of The Week goes to...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
The Hypno-Toad said:
And the prize for the Biggest tt Of The Week goes to...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
heard that on the local news yesterday and thought, what a berk, and someone rightly pointed out that his daughter would become the centre of attention at school making her life very difficulthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
The Hypno-Toad said:
And the prize for the Biggest tt Of The Week goes to...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
Paranoid! I bet he has endless stockpile of (cheap) medical masks and antibacterial hand gel. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
2013BRM said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
And the prize for the Biggest tt Of The Week goes to...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
heard that on the local news yesterday and thought, what a berk, and someone rightly pointed out that his daughter would become the centre of attention at school making her life very difficulthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
soad said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
And the prize for the Biggest tt Of The Week goes to...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
Paranoid! I bet he has endless stockpile of (cheap) medical masks and antibacterial hand gel. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
I'm guessing his browser history probably contains the words David & Icke a fair bit...
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