US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
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PRTVR said:
Jimbeaux said:
2013BRM said:
Jimbeaux said:
1,500 more troops headed for Iraq; they will just not let their boots touch the ground.
ah, hover troops
Dunno about the Jihadis, but the preferred battle wear among the PYG and PYJ in Kobani seems to be trainers, no ballistic armour and no helmets. Seems there are no helmets, little ballistic armour (and it slows you down too much) and not enough proper boots (also slower to run in than trainers).
Apparently the Americans are in the process of establishing A10's in the region.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-ma...
I dont understand why this hasn't happened earlier.
Dropping expensive bombs and missiles from 10,000ft is simply not as effective as having a taxi rank of A10's over IS, taking turns to dash down and take out any rat that pops its head up.
Truly, if this was Europe or US homeland IS were threatening, this whole charade would be over in one day. The US and the West has the firepower. We have helicopter gunships and stuff. Hell, send a C130 Spector down there. That would tilt the balance of conflict in a nicely overwhelming way.
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-ma...
I dont understand why this hasn't happened earlier.
Dropping expensive bombs and missiles from 10,000ft is simply not as effective as having a taxi rank of A10's over IS, taking turns to dash down and take out any rat that pops its head up.
Truly, if this was Europe or US homeland IS were threatening, this whole charade would be over in one day. The US and the West has the firepower. We have helicopter gunships and stuff. Hell, send a C130 Spector down there. That would tilt the balance of conflict in a nicely overwhelming way.
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
toppstuff said:
Apparently the Americans are in the process of establishing A10's in the region.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-ma...
I dont understand why this hasn't happened earlier.
Dropping expensive bombs and missiles from 10,000ft is simply not as effective as having a taxi rank of A10's over IS, taking turns to dash down and take out any rat that pops its head up.
Truly, if this was Europe or US homeland IS were threatening, this whole charade would be over in one day. The US and the West has the firepower. We have helicopter gunships and stuff. Hell, send a C130 Spector down there. That would tilt the balance of conflict in a nicely overwhelming way.
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
the press and worries about the political lefthttp://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-usafs-much-ma...
I dont understand why this hasn't happened earlier.
Dropping expensive bombs and missiles from 10,000ft is simply not as effective as having a taxi rank of A10's over IS, taking turns to dash down and take out any rat that pops its head up.
Truly, if this was Europe or US homeland IS were threatening, this whole charade would be over in one day. The US and the West has the firepower. We have helicopter gunships and stuff. Hell, send a C130 Spector down there. That would tilt the balance of conflict in a nicely overwhelming way.
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
toppstuff said:
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
It's because you can't 'win' this war. It has to be fought by the people of the region. Dropping bombs or otherwise blasting the s
t out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
KareemK said:
toppstuff said:
Why oh why does the West and US choose to adopt such weak-willed rules of engagement?
It's because you can't 'win' this war. It has to be fought by the people of the region. Dropping bombs or otherwise blasting the st out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
KareemK said:
It's because you can't 'win' this war. It has to be fought by the people of the region. Dropping bombs or otherwise blasting the st out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.
This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
The seeds that you refer to are found in the nasty little guide book that IS use. They want to establish a rather large caliphate. The clue is in their name.t out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
Blaming this on western measures to counteract what they are doing is rather myopic, if not wilfully misleading.
Muntu said:
KareemK said:
It's because you can't 'win' this war. It has to be fought by the people of the region. Dropping bombs or otherwise blasting the st out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.
This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
The seeds that you refer to are found in the nasty little guide book that IS use. They want to establish a rather large caliphate. The clue is in their name.t out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
Blaming this on western measures to counteract what they are doing is rather myopic, if not wilfully misleading.
king hell u. Now, I know you're not fond of muslims based on your posting history but wilfully misleading and myopic? Do you not think there is even a shred of truth in his post?eddharris said:
fking hell u. Now, I know you're not fond of muslims based on your posting history but wilfully misleading and myopic? Do you not think there is even a shred of truth in his post?
king hell u. Now, I know you're not fond of muslims based on your posting history but wilfully misleading and myopic? Do you not think there is even a shred of truth in his post?u? Very droll I don't see that bombing or otherwise is going to affect their aims or strategy. Nor do I see it having much affect on their recruitment. We don't see too many Christians, atheists, or Buddhists heading over there to fight do we?
So, in short, no.
Muntu said:
u? Very droll I don't see that bombing or otherwise is going to affect their aims or strategy. Nor do I see it having much affect on their recruitment. We don't see too many Christians, atheists, or Buddhists heading over there to fight do we?
So, in short, no.
u. Thought it up all by myself too.Mermaid said:
Just imagine the GDP impact on countries if Muslims burnt their silly book & behaved themselves.
I have a British muslim friend here in Canada that is desperate to go back home (to the UK) but is too embarrassed and also afraid that his kids will get picked on. This s
t storm is causing problems for everyone. Such a shame as things used to be normal.Mermaid said:
Just imagine the GDP impact on countries if Muslims burnt their silly book & behaved themselves.
You could say much the same for all the silly books (and not just of the descendants of Abraham). But I'd remind you, again, that the Muslims are doing most of the fighting against the Daesh (along with some Christians and Yazidis).
Muntu said:
KareemK said:
It's because you can't 'win' this war. It has to be fought by the people of the region. Dropping bombs or otherwise blasting the st out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.
This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
The seeds that you refer to are found in the nasty little guide book that IS use. They want to establish a rather large caliphate. The clue is in their name.t out of IS will, perversely, only sow the seeds for future actions against the West. It's a loop that we have to break out of.This is a regional conflict that requires a regional solution.
Blaming this on western measures to counteract what they are doing is rather myopic, if not wilfully misleading.
I'm saying that the outcome will have to be decided by the people of the region. Our interference or bombing will only lead to more instability ultimately. You'd have thought we'd have learnt that lesson.
Ignoring this obvious outcome is rather short sighted if not out and out war mongering.
See wot I did there
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