Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
Ms Sturgeon on BBC Breakfast right now: "this election is certainly not about another independence. referendum".
It took less then 12 hours after they lost the referendum before they stated they wanted another chanceYou might find yourself living in an independent scotland in a few weeks time if the loud mouthed idiots in the SNP ranks get their way
http://www.sott.net/article/287750-Scotland-may-un...
For anyone who doesn't understand this yet, the SNP's prime function is to gain independence for Scotland. That's the only reason they exist!! Its their No.1 directive by any means and they simply will not stop until they achieve this.
For those who moan and groan when independence is mentioned again, they better get used to it as it will rear its head again in the near future. It doesn't matter what the vote was in the previous referendum, it will be voted on again and again until independence is finally achieved. Deal with it!!!
Once this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..
Don't think for a minute that because the SNP is affecting Westminster politics that they won't be after independence anymore. Everything they do is focussed upon that single goal..
Nicola Sturgeon is correct at this time, ..this election has no mandate for another referendum, that will happen later when the time is right, but all you moaners and groaners better get used to the idea that the break up of the UK is inevitable. Btw.. I am no SNP/YES voter or supporter, but I understand how things are and will be. Get your head around it!
exitwound said:
Nicola Sturgeon is correct at this time, ..this election has no mandate for another referendum, that will happen later when the time is right, but all you moaners and groaners better get used to the idea that the break up of the UK is inevitable. Btw.. I am no SNP/YES voter or supporter, but I understand how things are and will be. Get your head around it!
How can it be inevitable when the majority of Scots that voted voted for Union?IainT said:
exitwound said:
Nicola Sturgeon is correct at this time, ..this election has no mandate for another referendum, that will happen later when the time is right, but all you moaners and groaners better get used to the idea that the break up of the UK is inevitable. Btw.. I am no SNP/YES voter or supporter, but I understand how things are and will be. Get your head around it!
How can it be inevitable when the majority of Scots that voted voted for Union?And they will keep asking for the settled will of the scottish people be respected until we give them the correct answer
The next referendum will be 2018/19
Investment will reduce in scotland and it will strengthen the case to leave the UK
Scotland is f
ked in the long termEdinburger said:
Welshbeef said:
Anyone think that in Scotland we may see a repeat of the John Major silent victory style is all polls saying SNP going to destroy everyone but instead that doesn't materialise at all.
I think the Conservatives will do better than expected. Other parties' promises feel too similar and I think many people are tiring of the "anyone but the Tories" lines which we keep hearing. Could be wrong but I think this will drive some people to vote Conservative.
ks, I feel sorry for any tory supporter in Scotland. they have the choice of voting for what they believe in & risk getting the SNP forced on them OR tactilely voting Labour to keep the SNP out, at least with Labour they would still be in the UK. arp1 said:
Remember wiggleturd, it is the will of the Scottish people that puts a party in power, and IF a referendum is in the Snp Holyrood manifesto and the Scottish people vote for it, then it's a goer, if they don't get in then a referendum is much less likely. Democracy.
Thats why SNP MP's will be working hard to divide the UK between the UK GE and the 2016 Scottish GE.With a Labour/SNP coalition i expect 12 months of complete disruption to the UK which will help no one.
arp1 said:
And if they do a bad job at westminister why would they be voted in at Holyrood?
They have the ultimate get out clause.Something like; its not our fault Scotland's voice is to small in Westminster or the Labour party prevented us from delivering for Scotland.
Failures at Westminster is exactly what the SNP want and will orchestrate in my view.
exitwound said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
Ms Sturgeon on BBC Breakfast right now: "this election is certainly not about another independence. referendum".
It took less then 12 hours after they lost the referendum before they stated they wanted another chanceYou might find yourself living in an independent scotland in a few weeks time if the loud mouthed idiots in the SNP ranks get their way
http://www.sott.net/article/287750-Scotland-may-un...
For anyone who doesn't understand this yet, the SNP's prime function is to gain independence for Scotland. That's the only reason they exist!! Its their No.1 directive by any means and they simply will not stop until they achieve this.
For those who moan and groan when independence is mentioned again, they better get used to it as it will rear its head again in the near future. It doesn't matter what the vote was in the previous referendum, it will be voted on again and again until independence is finally achieved. Deal with it!!!
Once this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..
Don't think for a minute that because the SNP is affecting Westminster politics that they won't be after independence anymore. Everything they do is focussed upon that single goal..
Nicola Sturgeon is correct at this time, ..this election has no mandate for another referendum, that will happen later when the time is right, but all you moaners and groaners better get used to the idea that the break up of the UK is inevitable. Btw.. I am no SNP/YES voter or supporter, but I understand how things are and will be. Get your head around it!
We might be questioning their self declared right to speak for Scotland.. a movement that lost the referendum by 55% to 45%. And which only got a majority in 4 of the 32 districts during the referendum. And which only got 32% of the vote in Orkney (UDI for Orkney from Indy Scotland anyone?). And in fact only got 37% of the total electorate's vote. So when people blather about independence being 'inevitable', I'd suggest the reverse is true. It's eminently evitable. It does however require Unionists, and the *majority* of Scots to reorganise their political bodies to prevent a wilful undemocratic minority hijacking the will of the majority. Which we've yet to see any attempt to do.
arp1 said:
Remember wiggleturd, it is the will of the Scottish people that puts a party in power, and IF a referendum is in the Snp Holyrood manifesto and the Scottish people vote for it, then it's a goer, if they don't get in then a referendum is much less likely. Democracy.
You can't have it both ways - we keep being told that not all SNP voters support independence, and that a vote for the SNP isn't a vote for another referendum.Make your minds up!
arp1 said:
Remember wiggleturd, it is the will of the Scottish people that puts a party in power, and IF a referendum is in the Snp Holyrood manifesto and the Scottish people vote for it, then it's a goer, if they don't get in then a referendum is much less likely. Democracy.
Except, unless you are a SNPMentalist democracy doesn't work like that. If they somehow managed to get a majority in the Westminster election they might feel able to put a bill before parliament, to allow another referendum, but otherwise a Holyrood manifesto is just piss in the wind, as conducting a legally valid referendum is a Westminister competency. And unless Sturgeon does end up with Miliband's balls in her paw, it is highly unlikely that any Westminster leader would agree to rerun the 2012 Edinburgh Agreement. So Edinburger I think is correct. Please come back in 50 years.Ridgemont said:
Except, unless you are a SNPMentalist democracy doesn't work like that. If they somehow managed to get a majority in the Westminster election they might feel able to put a bill before parliament, to allow another referendum, but otherwise a Holyrood manifesto is just piss in the wind, as conducting a legally valid referendum is a Westminister competency. And unless Sturgeon does end up with Miliband's balls in her paw, it is highly unlikely that any Westminster leader would agree to rerun the 2012 Edinburgh Agreement. So Edinburger I think is correct. Please come back in 50 years.
Include rUK in the next vote 
arp1 said:
Remember wiggleturd, it is the will of the Scottish people that puts a party in power, and IF a referendum is in the Snp Holyrood manifesto and the Scottish people vote for it, then it's a goer, if they don't get in then a referendum is much less likely. Democracy.
So what you are saying is"the settled will of the scottish people"
"Once in a generation vote"
"once in a lifetime chance"
Was all total lies
Thank you for making it clear that you and the SNP are lying scum who have zero respect for the majority of the scottish people
Edited by McWigglebum4th on Wednesday 29th April 12:17
arp1 said:
Like I said though, if they have any 'voice' down there, and make a mess, they will not get voted in for a third term....
But you will always vote SNPAs you don't give a f
k if everyone currently employed at faslane is thrown on the dole and starves to death as you are racist scum who cares only about "freedom"The cost to the people of Scotland is irrelevant to you
You fundamentally don't give a f
k about the people of scotlandYou will pass someone starving on the street and your only thought is i hope they vote SNP
I on the other hand do care about the people of scotland which is why i voted NO and always will as we are stronger together
Which is acknowledged by the SNP by their refusal to leave the EU
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
Like I said though, if they have any 'voice' down there, and make a mess, they will not get voted in for a third term....
But you will always vote SNPAs you don't give a f
k if everyone currently employed at faslane is thrown on the dole and starves to death as you are racist scum who cares only about "freedom"The cost to the people of Scotland is irrelevant to you
You fundamentally don't give a f
k about the people of scotlandYou will pass someone starving on the street and your only thought is i hope they vote SNP
I on the other hand do care about the people of scotland which is why i voted NO and always will as we are stronger together
Which is acknowledged by the SNP by their refusal to leave the EU
exitwound said:
For those who moan and groan when independence is mentioned again, they better get used to it as it will rear its head again in the near future. It doesn't matter what the vote was in the previous referendum, it will be voted on again and again until independence is finally achieved. Deal with it!!!
Once this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..
Utter bOnce this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..
ks.You seriously think Sturgeon, Salmond and their rag tag bunch of economically illiterate followers will be happy with independence? That they'll just hand over the reigns to AN Other and put their feet up, satisfied with a job well done?
Not a f
king chance.technodup said:
tter bks.
You seriously think Sturgeon, Salmond and their rag tag bunch of economically illiterate followers will be happy with independence? That they'll just hand over the reigns to AN Other and put their feet up, satisfied with a job well done?
Not a fking chance.
Bit of re branding is required that's all.ks.You seriously think Sturgeon, Salmond and their rag tag bunch of economically illiterate followers will be happy with independence? That they'll just hand over the reigns to AN Other and put their feet up, satisfied with a job well done?
Not a f
king chance.SNP to become the TSP (True Scots Party) and Salmond/Sturgeon to become King & Queen of Scotland.
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