Done Better than Expected - That will be £1.7bn then - WTF!
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Pesty said:
tin foil time.
EU demands 1.7 billion.
Cameron acts tough gets them to withdraw the request.
makes big deal about it, you See we are not run by the EU no need to vote Yes to leaving EU.
Cameron and his EU buddies laugh it up and slap each other on the back.
I like your cynicism. Mine was going roughly the same way. EU demands 1.7 billion.
Cameron acts tough gets them to withdraw the request.
makes big deal about it, you See we are not run by the EU no need to vote Yes to leaving EU.
Cameron and his EU buddies laugh it up and slap each other on the back.
scorp said:
jmorgan said:
It must go to tender for the cheapest bidder.
Is that the one and only criteria a company is picked? Seems a bit daft.FWIW, I know that a lot of the EU 'kickbacks' come in the form of grants and that it is the administration of these - the reporting of how they are being spent (or misallocated, as the case may be) - that is the major sticking point with getting EU accounts audited, hence why none have ever been produced. Certainly in terms of business grants, the quangos which dish them out can offer training and advice (which is why business owners are bombarded with courses) but generally cannot actually pay for anything to actually be done, although I am told that certain other EU nations are (unsurprisingly) less rigorous with this ruling. (To my mind, there has always been something very odd with the proliferation and gregariousness of Italian SME industrial businesses, compared to all other EU nations.)
I don't know if everyone read the entire article...but it's this passage that is most pertinent.
"Eurostat arrived at the €2.1bn figure on the basis of new methods of calculating member states’ GNI since 1995, taking account of previously unreported or under-reported black economy elements, such as drug dealing and consumption or the sex industry."
Basically the EU created this new calculation so they could add a fudge factor into the dodgy and poorly performing countries (Italy I'm looking at you) to make them look like they are doing better than they are.
It's nuts!
"Eurostat arrived at the €2.1bn figure on the basis of new methods of calculating member states’ GNI since 1995, taking account of previously unreported or under-reported black economy elements, such as drug dealing and consumption or the sex industry."
Basically the EU created this new calculation so they could add a fudge factor into the dodgy and poorly performing countries (Italy I'm looking at you) to make them look like they are doing better than they are.
It's nuts!
Can anyone answer what happens if we say 'No'
What would the eu do about it, they could send us a fine - answer again - "No"
what can they actually do to make us pay??
Its like being in a bad relationship with looser who just wastes cash and just asked for a bit more every few months, eventually you tell them to f
k off. Then what??
What would the eu do about it, they could send us a fine - answer again - "No"
what can they actually do to make us pay??
Its like being in a bad relationship with looser who just wastes cash and just asked for a bit more every few months, eventually you tell them to f
k off. Then what??London424 said:
I don't know if everyone read the entire article...but it's this passage that is most pertinent.
"Eurostat arrived at the €2.1bn figure on the basis of new methods of calculating member states’ GNI since 1995, taking account of previously unreported or under-reported black economy elements, such as drug dealing and consumption or the sex industry."
Basically the EU created this new calculation so they could add a fudge factor into the dodgy and poorly performing countries (Italy I'm looking at you) to make them look like they are doing better than they are.
It's nuts!
I liked it! And that bit before:"Eurostat arrived at the €2.1bn figure on the basis of new methods of calculating member states’ GNI since 1995, taking account of previously unreported or under-reported black economy elements, such as drug dealing and consumption or the sex industry."
Basically the EU created this new calculation so they could add a fudge factor into the dodgy and poorly performing countries (Italy I'm looking at you) to make them look like they are doing better than they are.
It's nuts!
"Mark Rutte, the Dutch prime minister, was said to be onside, after the Netherlands was also asked to make top-up payment of £507 million.
The payment, described by officials as a “surcharge” follows a change to the way the EU calculates gross national income to include previous hidden service industries, including such prostitution and illegal drugs"
So most EU countries won't allow drugs to be freely sold or recognise prostitution but, please, give us the tax money if yours does.
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