Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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Pinoyuk

422 posts

57 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Gameface said:
You're a fantasist.
This is where you become a Joke.Show us all you are right ?. I never ever heard of the drug dealer before I was told his name.I said and its clear . That the person discussing the issue is in a position where they would know if a threat like that had been made. Now crack on with the thread but try and keep your facts correct .

T-195

2,671 posts

62 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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It's a Royal Cock Out!

Sheets Tabuer

18,984 posts

216 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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She was trafficked for sex allegedly, everything after that makes it repugnant.

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Jimboka said:
Stating that he wasn’t at the nightclub on the given day, but was at a pizza place, is surely easily proven.
There will have been numerous staff/management/witnesses/cameras to prove he was there, if he was.
So if the daily rag fail to come up with proof in the coming days, he wasn’t there
Which will cast doubt on the rest of the story

Let’s see how it pans out in the coming days
Either bang to rights, or innocent
Plenty time to put kids to bed, slap on some Drakkar Noir and get a taxi to Tramp afterwards too...

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Pinoyuk said:
She was . But once it was over with Charles she got “binned “ big time . Nice looking but boring . A never to be repeated one night event !
Is Jackanory back on TV?

Killer2005

19,656 posts

229 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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I'm in the same position having just watched the interview. He could have well had relations with a girl who had been coerced but its entirely plausible that he didn't know that part.

What I do know is that if this all comes out as true and Andrew has lied, then he's royally fked and who knows how much the rest of the royal family would be affected.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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jshell said:
Jimboka said:
Stating that he wasn’t at the nightclub on the given day, but was at a pizza place, is surely easily proven.
There will have been numerous staff/management/witnesses/cameras to prove he was there, if he was.
So if the daily rag fail to come up with proof in the coming days, he wasn’t there
Which will cast doubt on the rest of the story

Let’s see how it pans out in the coming days
Either bang to rights, or innocent
Plenty time to put kids to bed, slap on some Drakkar Noir and get a taxi to Tramp afterwards too...
Indeed
The daily rag managed to find plenty of pics of him at other events having fun.
Let’s see some of him at the pizza place or Tramps on the night in question. No pics / he wasn’t there. The world & his wife would be selling the story if they were there, strange that nobody has yet... He must have been certain, or he’s toast

Escort3500

11,919 posts

146 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Toaster said:
bulldong said:
Wacky Racer said:
rover 623gsi said:
Fallingup said:
i have no sympathy for the women involved. But I would like to see the prince brought to account.
No sympathy for a 17 year old girl coerced into having sex with strange men twice her age?
When you look at THAT photograph, does she really look like she is there against her will?



You would imagine there would be some signs of distress in her face...
Your statement about her not looking like she’s in distress is outrageous.

People who are groomed don’t realise it whilst they’re being groomed. It doesn’t even take much to groom someone, just read about the Rotherham grooming cases. A couple of bottles of cheap vodka and free kebabs was enough for those girls.

Try then adding in private islands, flying about in a private jet, and all the rest of the jazz. It almost always involves being matey with the parents to gain their trust (Epstein did this with lots of victims). It’s grooming and it’s fking weird, dirty behaviour by a bunch of obnoxious old men.

You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that way.
Bulldong you are spot on, I cannot understand why Rover would think this is OK, where are the moral and ethical compass of the people who think a young girl (or boy) is "asking for it" or its ok as they were "Agreeing to it" FFS guys (and Girls). under 18's are children over 18's are adults but even then Adults (particularly young adults) can be at risk. It should be for all of use to watch out for the welfare of the young, to consider anything else is just wrong, epstein's and his ilk such as Jimmy Savil's behaviour wrecks lives.........Girls and Women who are abused need our understanding.

Whilst we are at it, Men forget......women are afraid of being killed by Men......Men are afraid of being laughed at by women. Most women would agree with this view.

Thanks. To be fair to the op he did concede he was wrong.


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 18th November 22:47

Etypephil

724 posts

79 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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amgmcqueen said:
Time for a republic.
About 300 years overdue.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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amgmcqueen said:
Time for a republic.
I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

162 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Toaster said:
bulldong said:
Wacky Racer said:
rover 623gsi said:
Fallingup said:
i have no sympathy for the women involved. But I would like to see the prince brought to account.
No sympathy for a 17 year old girl coerced into having sex with strange men twice her age?
When you look at THAT photograph, does she really look like she is there against her will?



You would imagine there would be some signs of distress in her face...
Your statement about her not looking like she’s in distress is outrageous.

People who are groomed don’t realise it whilst they’re being groomed. It doesn’t even take much to groom someone, just read about the Rotherham grooming cases. A couple of bottles of cheap vodka and free kebabs was enough for those girls.

Try then adding in private islands, flying about in a private jet, and all the rest of the jazz. It almost always involves being matey with the parents to gain their trust (Epstein did this with lots of victims). It’s grooming and it’s fking weird, dirty behaviour by a bunch of obnoxious old men.

You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that way.
Bulldong you are spot on, I cannot understand why Rover would think this is OK, where are the moral and ethical compass of the people who think a young girl (or boy) is "asking for it" or its ok as they were "Agreeing to it" FFS guys (and Girls). under 18's are children over 18's are adults but even then Adults (particularly young adults) can be at risk. It should be for all of use to watch out for the welfare of the young, to consider anything else is just wrong, epstein's and his ilk such as Jimmy Savil's behaviour wrecks lives.........Girls and Women who are abused need our understanding.

Whilst we are at it, Men forget......women are afraid of being killed by Men......Men are afraid of being laughed at by women. Most women would agree with this view.

It was wacky racer that said that, not me

Blue62

8,897 posts

153 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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While we are at it maybe we could raise the voting age to 21, sounds like a sensible response under the circumstances. We could also ban groupies even though they apparently became extinct after 1969 and maybe consider stoning anyone who gets a girl pregnant, where the age gap is 8 years or more.

Sorry, but I don’t understand why Andrew would subject himself or his family to such a public display of cringing stupidity if he had nothing to hide. Any PR consultant or lawyer worth their salt would tell him to keep quiet, so it’s reasonable to conclude that there is more to this. I also think the moped age should be raised to 32 and more should be done about nuisance Teddy Boys.

vdn

8,911 posts

204 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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That interview was car crash.

“Royal arrogance” indeed.

He’s as guilty as sin; friends with a known sex offender... partaking a little also.

His answers in the interview were just layers of lies upon lies and made no sense. Baffling back and forth and contradictions galore.

What a thicko to have gone ahead with that interview - against advice it would seem.



JagLover

42,450 posts

236 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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I appreciate where you are coming from but the difficulty is that you are then criminalising consensual sex between males and females where both are physically ready for such acts.

According to the NHS website most girls enter puberty at age eleven and most reach full sexual maturity within four years. I.E. a bit before the current age of consent of sixteen. So whatever the law says there will be girls of fifteen, or even younger, who have reached sexual maturity and this is reflected in the considerable number entering into sexual relationships before they reach the current age of consent of sixteen.

Being mentally ready is another question of course but I think it is helpful to think of the journey into adulthood being via various stages and teen romance, and sex, being a part of that.

Byker28i

60,149 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Are the US getting a little hypocritical? Saying Andrew needs to be questioned in the US but refuses to help with the hit and run driving wife?

JagLover

42,450 posts

236 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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Given that Oxytocin is a hormone released by love making then they are not actually being particularly dishonest wink, at least in the short term at any rate.


Pinoyuk

422 posts

57 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Byker28i said:
Are the US getting a little hypocritical? Saying Andrew needs to be questioned in the US but refuses to help with the hit and run driving wife?
Thats you not going to the US again ! The US does what it wants . But in Andrews case they have hit their limit .They can shout out loud as usual .But he will never have to sit in a US court unless he wants

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Pinoyuk said:
Thats you not going to the US again ! The US does what it wants . But in Andrews case they have hit their limit .They can shout out loud as usual .But he will never have to sit in a US court unless he wants
I agree he won’t be going to the US anytime soon.
He should be but he won’t

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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I never took you for a neckbeard.