Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

[Halmyre]

Graveworm said:

Ructions said:

I’d prefer if both countries were to do the honourable thing and hand both suspects over.

I don't think anyone has said he's a suspect (For this) he's a potential witness,

I'll bet that's one of the stumbling blocks. Andrew has probably agreed to speak to them under certain conditions that the FBI have rejected.

[Escapegoat]

Halmyre said:

I'll bet that's one of the stumbling blocks. Andrew has probably agreed to speak to them under certain conditions that the FBI have rejected.

No. He'll have agreed to answer written questions by written answers through his lawyers. They will craft the same sort of answers that Cummings read in his statement.

There is no way - after the Maitlis interview - that PA would agree to a face-to-face open-ended interview with seasoned interrogators.

[Dont like rolls]

now with honesty.....think about it.

Who here would let themselves become embroiled with United States Legal system @ by choice @ (add to that, imagine you are a "negative world figure")

Even IF I ever saw the light, had a moral epiphany of Biblical proportions and found the long lost Mantra of Truth hidden in a sand cave , hell, even if I made a pinky promise with my "bestie" Me ?......not a chance ....as such it is hard to criticise his avoiding the same.

Edited by Dont like rolls on Tuesday 9th June 16:34

[Chestrockwell]

After watching the epstein documentary, I have concluded that Prince Andrew is indeed a nonce and I don’t see why he shouldn’t be punished for his crimes?

Jeffery Epstein was a paedophile, preyed on 14 year old girls to do all sorts. Prince Andrew was his friend and went to his island frequently. If he was innocent, he would have stopped being his friend the moment he got convicted and sent to prison.

He didn’t though and still went to New York to see him and there are pictures of them together.

Let’s say he was innocent, If you had a friend that was investigated and convicted of those sort of crimes, would you still be their friend? I know I wouldn’t.

[Turfy]

Chestrockwell said:

After watching the epstein documentary, I have concluded that Prince Andrew is indeed a nonce and I don’t see why he shouldn’t be punished for his crimes?

Jeffery Epstein was a paedophile, preyed on 14 year old girls to do all sorts. Prince Andrew was his friend and went to his island frequently. If he was innocent, he would have stopped being his friend the moment he got convicted and sent to prison.

He didn’t though and still went to New York to see him and there are pictures of them together.

Let’s say he was innocent, If you had a friend that was investigated and convicted of those sort of crimes, would you still be their friend? I know I wouldn’t.

I have to largely agree with your thought process.

How much HRH knew and how much he turned a blind eye to, is open for debate. It is clear that anyone with an ounce of decency would've distanced themselves from Epstein at the earliest opportunity.

To fully understand what a despicable, lovesome scumbag paedophile Epstein was before he died he transferred all his wealth/assets to an offshore trust so no civil suit could be settled/paid out in the event of a loss in the civil courts; c.$577m is locked away with no means of accessing the monies for any victims.

[Graveworm]

Chestrockwell said:

After watching the epstein documentary, I have concluded that Prince Andrew is indeed a nonce and I don’t see why he shouldn’t be punished for his crimes?

What crime are you suggesting he should be punished for. He definitely should be punished for any crimes.

His moral compass appears way off wack, I think he has not been anywhere near completely honest. Those I know, who have dealt with him, overwhelmingly disliked him. This was despite acknowledging some significant positives.

But we don't call those, or anything so far out there, about him, crimes.

[CoolHands]

So guilt by association then? Just cos he went and talked to him doesn’t mean he did the same things. There may be someone in your social circles that have been convicted of crimes in the past, it doesn’t mean you have done the same

[Pommy]

CoolHands said:

So guilt by association then? Just cos he went and talked to him doesn’t mean he did the same things. There may be someone in your social circles that have been convicted of crimes in the past, it doesn’t mean you have done the same

He has been directly accused of having sex by the woman when she was younger - that is not guilty by association.

[Graveworm]

Pommy said:

He has been directly accused of having sex by the woman when she was younger - that is not guilty by association.

Not when she was underage though AIUI?

[vonuber]

Graveworm said:

Not when she was underage though AIUI?

She was sex trafficked. It was rape.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

He's just misunderstood.

[mick987]

The age of consent in the USVI is 18, she was underage when Prince pervert was all over her in the pool.

Edited by mick987 on Wednesday 10th June 13:04

[Graveworm]

I don't want to be the Andrew apologist as I think it's all abhorrent but not illegal -

vonuber said:

She was sex trafficked. It was rape.

Not in the UK. We didn't even really have sex trafficking legislation then.

mick987 said:

The age of consent in the USVI is 18, she was underage when Prince pervert was all over her in the pool.

Only for intercourse, not for sexual contact.

Edited by Graveworm on Wednesday 10th June 13:43

[Chestrockwell]

Graveworm said:

What crime are you suggesting he should be punished for. He definitely should be punished for any crimes.

His moral compass appears way off wack, I think he has not been anywhere near completely honest. Those I know, who have dealt with him, overwhelmingly disliked him. This was despite acknowledging some significant positives.

But we don't call those, or anything so far out there, about him, crimes.

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

[Chestrockwell]

Graveworm said:

What crime are you suggesting he should be punished for. He definitely should be punished for any crimes.

His moral compass appears way off wack, I think he has not been anywhere near completely honest. Those I know, who have dealt with him, overwhelmingly disliked him. This was despite acknowledging some significant positives.

But we don't call those, or anything so far out there, about him, crimes.

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

Chestrockwell said:

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

Do you work for the Daily Mail?

[Carbon Sasquatch]

Chestrockwell said:

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

Bit of a leap there...... I have some gay friends - but what they get upto in the bedroom isn't why we're friends.....

[Porsche guy]

Carbon Sasquatch said:

Chestrockwell said:

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

Bit of a leap there...... I have some gay friends - but what they get upto in the bedroom isn't why we're friends.....

Not quite the same thing, being Gay isn't illegal

[Stay in Bed Instead]

Porsche guy said:

Not quite the same thing, being Gay isn't illegal

Neither is being friends with Epstein.

[Carbon Sasquatch]

Porsche guy said:

Carbon Sasquatch said:

Chestrockwell said:

Well I scroll through Facebook and see videos shared of those Paedo hunters who pose as 14 year old girls confronting and getting people arrested who intended on meeting them. He is being accused of having sex with a minor and not only that, he was very pally with a convicted pedophile. What would British Prince become friends with an American billionaire other than them having something in common, being under age girls.

Bit of a leap there...... I have some gay friends - but what they get upto in the bedroom isn't why we're friends.....

Not quite the same thing, being Gay isn't illegal

The logic that was being presented is that the only reason they could possibly be friends is their sexual interests. What else could a prince & a billionaire possibly have in common ?