Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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JuniorD said:
Was Prince Phillip ever known as a philanderer back in his day?

I used to share a flat with a media person who alleged Andrew was subject to one of those D-notice things, and when you google the rumour there are only one or two results of note about it. Separately I got to know a journalist years later who pretty much said the same thing.
Phillip is reported to be everybody's favorite royal, I have never heard of anything bad but saying that it may have been easier to cover things up in those days, who knows.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Wasn't Diana a bit unusual in that she actually tried to raise them?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Philip spent long periods away from Liz in the 50s. And man has needs...

I'd forgotten about Lord Louis of the flying deck shoe. Him and Montgomery both apparently had the same 'tastes'.

FredericRobinson

3,724 posts

233 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
Historically the offspring of a Monarch have all gone off the rails. Some more than others.
...Edward who is gay. ...
Does that count as off the rails?

CypSIdders

858 posts

155 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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JuniorD said:
Was Prince Phillip ever known as a philanderer back in his day?
He was implicated in the Profumo scandal, but his name was kept out of the papers, google is your friend!

sas62

5,659 posts

79 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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FredericRobinson said:
Does that count as off the rails?
Perhaps a little outré to a certain generation.

Gareth79

7,686 posts

247 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Mort7 said:
Someone I know worked in Royal Protection for Andrew a good few years back. Although they weren't indiscreet in any way, they were far from complimentary about his condescending attitude too.
I think I once read that he had people "moved on" who didn't do what he said (even when it was against protocol)? I had a quick Google and couldn't find anything specific, but I did find this article from 2009 mentioning Maxwell's visits!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfa...

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Why on earth are we still funding the lifestyle of people like him.

Just because he was born into a certain family. rolleyes

Madness.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Why on earth are we still funding the lifestyle of people like him.

Just because he was born into a certain family. rolleyes

Madness.
I'm not sure we are. The crown estate provides significantly more into the treasury than they get back as an allowance.
The Crown Estate brought in £330 million in 2017/18, this money goes to the government who then give the Queen a grant based on 25% of the Crown Estate’s income two years previously. The queen also pays tax on her other incomes.

2.7 million visitors to Windsor and Buckingham Palace

Then you've the monarchy’s annual contribution to the UK economy to be around £1.8bn a year, drawing in an additional £550m of tourism revenues a year, and an increase in trade, from the Royal Family acting as ambassadors, supposedly worth £150m a year.
https://brandfinance.com/news/press-releases/value...

and the queen is still working at 93!

So tell me - how exactly is that funding?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Irony somewhere, the US public at least absolutely lap up the big royal events. Very hard to get digs up London when something is on. Well, digs at a sensible price. Trooping the colour, weddings, funerals, all a global event.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Byker28i said:
I'm not sure we are. The crown estate provides significantly more into the treasury than they get back as an allowance.
The Crown Estate brought in £330 million in 2017/18, this money goes to the government who then give the Queen a grant based on 25% of the Crown Estate’s income two years previously. The queen also pays tax on her other incomes.

2.7 million visitors to Windsor and Buckingham Palace

Then you've the monarchy’s annual contribution to the UK economy to be around £1.8bn a year, drawing in an additional £550m of tourism revenues a year, and an increase in trade, from the Royal Family acting as ambassadors, supposedly worth £150m a year.
https://brandfinance.com/news/press-releases/value...

and the queen is still working at 93!

So tell me - how exactly is that funding?
Exactly clap

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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FredericRobinson said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Historically the offspring of a Monarch have all gone off the rails. Some more than others.
...Edward who is gay. ...
Does that count as off the rails?
No of course not. Apologies if it came across that way. What I meant was, why not just come out and admit it? Why has everything got to be seen as 'traditional'?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
Byker28i said:
I'm not sure we are. The crown estate provides significantly more into the treasury than they get back as an allowance.
The Crown Estate brought in £330 million in 2017/18, this money goes to the government who then give the Queen a grant based on 25% of the Crown Estate’s income two years previously. The queen also pays tax on her other incomes.

2.7 million visitors to Windsor and Buckingham Palace

Then you've the monarchy’s annual contribution to the UK economy to be around £1.8bn a year, drawing in an additional £550m of tourism revenues a year, and an increase in trade, from the Royal Family acting as ambassadors, supposedly worth £150m a year.
https://brandfinance.com/news/press-releases/value...

and the queen is still working at 93!

So tell me - how exactly is that funding?
Exactly clap
So, the money is brought in by tourism etc. It's a bit different to you and I having to go to work to bring the money in.

All they have to do is show up at events, wave at people and the money flows. Hell, they don't even need to do that because of the heritage side of things. The buildings they reside in make money without them having to lift a finger.

Their idea of what is work is considerably different to the average Joe. My point still stands.

It's like someone inheriting a successful family business. They haven't had to put any graft in, the money just flows.

smn159

12,712 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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NoNeed said:
Byker28i said:
I'm not sure we are. The crown estate provides significantly more into the treasury than they get back as an allowance.
The Crown Estate brought in £330 million in 2017/18, this money goes to the government who then give the Queen a grant based on 25% of the Crown Estate’s income two years previously. The queen also pays tax on her other incomes.

2.7 million visitors to Windsor and Buckingham Palace

Then you've the monarchy’s annual contribution to the UK economy to be around £1.8bn a year, drawing in an additional £550m of tourism revenues a year, and an increase in trade, from the Royal Family acting as ambassadors, supposedly worth £150m a year.
https://brandfinance.com/news/press-releases/value...

and the queen is still working at 93!

So tell me - how exactly is that funding?
Exactly clap
Exactly. All that's needed is to be handed a £12 billion property portfolio and a grant of 15% of the annual profits. Can't see why more people don't pay their taxes like the Queen does.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Don't forget the personal wealth and her offshore investments.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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It’s not like people don’t visit France or their former royal residences or sites. Tourism would be the same without the royals.

Giving the royals loads of estates and palaces and then saying those locations make money so it’s the royals making money is frankly nonsense.

Prince Andrew has shown how much use he was as a trade ambassador. Wasn’t he actually sacked from that role?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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El stovey said:
It’s not like people don’t visit France or their former royal residences or sites. Tourism would be the same without the royals.

Giving the royals loads of estates and palaces and then saying those locations make money so it’s the royals making money is frankly nonsense.

Prince Andrew has shown how much use he was as a trade ambassador. Wasn’t he actually sacked from that role?
People do visit other places around the world, but we didn't lop the heads off ours royals so I suppose we have to keep them.

I like the idea of keeping them. Get rid of them and the political elite will get idea's, well, the chance to put idea's into practice. President Blair perhaps? President Clarkson (I could be tempted there), five year elections for some numb nuts mouth piece of whoever has the most money to lobby and the most political clout.

No thanks.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Byker28i said:
and the queen is still working at 93!
Only because she’s raised such hopeless successors.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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El stovey said:
Only because she’s raised such hopeless successors.
You do have a point there, jug ears should be skipped and if he had any decency drop the title straight to son number 1.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Zirconia said:
El stovey said:
Only because she’s raised such hopeless successors.
You do have a point there, jug ears should be skipped and if he had any decency drop the title straight to son number 1.
I was confused how you’d posted loads and been here for years but I didn’t recognise who you were, then I realised your old username. hehe

Welcome back. Did you have some time off?