Saudi Arabia - should we do business with them?

[Talksteer]

IainT said:

I'd love to see us stop doing business with Saudi but the reality is we can't survive without them with our addiction to oil and low prices.

The UK produces its own oil, while we do not fully satisfy domestic demand any more this makes the UK more robust to oil prices than the global economy as a whole.

What is more given north sea production prices,two of the supermajor oil companies are sort of British and many UK companies make things that either support the oil industry or are less frequently replaced when the oil price is low (RR and Airbus) low oil prices aren't particularly good for the UK.

[anonymous-user]

There is a huge diffidence between Indonesia and SA, the majority of Indonesians do not want Sharia, (except for family law, where it actually works very well) but it exists in Acha not least because the politically correct West stopped the Indonesians crushing the insurgency there and left the central government with no option but to settle, so the responsibility for the canning there today lies more with the government in London than with the one in Jakarta.

[FourWheelDrift]

Looks like Saudi Arabia is getting an early bid in to break it's execution record this year. 47 executed yesterday. All of them Shia Muslims, the minority in the Sunni Muslim run country. Amongst them was a Shia Cleric, he was executed by Crucifixion. Iran is not happy.

[Joey Ramone]

FourWheelDrift said:

Looks like Saudi Arabia is getting an early bid in to break it's execution record this year. 47 executed yesterday. All of them Shia Muslims, the minority in the Sunni Muslim run country. Amongst them was a Shia Cleric, he was executed by Crucifixion. Iran is not happy.

I think he was beheaded, and then his body displayed via cucifixion.

[Countdown]

Not surprising since the Provisional Wing of the Whahhabi Republican Army is getting its arse kicked by Shias in Iraq, and by the Russians in Syria.

Behading followed by crucifixion? How tf can Cameron keep turning a blind eye to this? He's a spineless brown nosing pig-molesting weasel.

[Jasandjules]

Talksteer said:

The UK produces its own oil, while we do not fully satisfy domestic demand any more this makes the UK more robust to oil prices than the global economy as a whole.

Well, you don't think we invaded Iraq for anything other than to protect the oil supply do you?

We will be fine. But to conduct business with some of these nations is appalling.

[GT03ROB]

FourWheelDrift said:

Looks like Saudi Arabia is getting an early bid in to break it's execution record this year. 47 executed yesterday. All of them Shia Muslims, the minority in the Sunni Muslim run country. Amongst them was a Shia Cleric, he was executed by Crucifixion. Iran is not happy.

Reading reports the majority were AL-Qaeda (Sunni) terrorists, not ste.

[FourWheelDrift]

GT03ROB said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Looks like Saudi Arabia is getting an early bid in to break it's execution record this year. 47 executed yesterday. All of them Shia Muslims, the minority in the Sunni Muslim run country. Amongst them was a Shia Cleric, he was executed by Crucifixion. Iran is not happy.

Reading reports the majority were AL-Qaeda (Sunni) terrorists, not ste.

Yep, I read early reports, there's more written about it now.

[Weary of internet morons]

Joey Ramone said:

I think he was beheaded, and then his body displayed via cucifixion.

In the interest of taste and public decency. Just to show the rest of the world what a modern, civilised country Saudi Arabia is.

[Jasandjules]

Weary of internet morons said:

In the interest of taste and public decency. Just to show the rest of the world what a modern, civilised country Saudi Arabia is.

Oh no, I think pushing schoolgirls back into a burning building puts their civilisation beyond doubt.

[Sam All]

Saudi regime - any redeeming features ?

[Weary of internet morons]

Jasandjules said:

Weary of internet morons said:

In the interest of taste and public decency. Just to show the rest of the world what a modern, civilised country Saudi Arabia is.

Oh no, I think pushing schoolgirls back into a burning building puts their civilisation beyond doubt.

Yes, but they were female. So don't count I think, isn't that right?

[Weary of internet morons]

Sam All said:

Saudi regime - any redeeming features ?

No. None. Ditto the religious extremist clerics the regime allow to flourish, propagate their ideas and push policy. Barbarians.

How we still do business with them... self interest is all very well, but eventually there should be limits, not to mention how allowing them to also prosper backfires re. the export of whabbimadism. Makes me feel dirty on behalf of my country.

[Legacywr]

No, we shouldn't!

[Octoposse]

The US will do anything to keep the Saudis onside as they are obsessed with Russia (and specifically Putin) as a threat. Saudi Arabia could nail 100,000 Shia to trees and get a free pass. 'We' will follow America's lead.

Edited by Octoposse on Saturday 2nd January 22:28

[anonymous-user]

Sam All said:

Saudi regime - any redeeming features ?

They buy UK built weapons and let the UK use their airbases.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/in...

Edited by el stovey on Sunday 3rd January 17:51

[glazbagun]

el stovey said:

Sam All said:

Saudi regime - any redeeming features ?

They buy UK built weapons and let the UK use their airbases.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/in...

And we don't want to upset the MIC:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/03/uk-ar...

I don't really think of Jon Snow as an attack dog journalist, but the way Cameron pretty much non-answered his question on why we supported Saudi's application to chair the UNHRC said it all for me. We're as bent as FIFA.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/davi...

[simo1863]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brit...

[GT03ROB]

Ironic, given current events that Iran seems to execute 3 times as many as Saudi & China one of our key trading partners more than 10 times.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/w...

Doesn't make Saudi clean though.

[glazbagun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35237317

BBC non-news article on Iranians posting on social media regarding the Saudi spat. I did find it interesting that the crowd tore down the flag from the Saudi embassy, but wouldn't burn it as it had "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet" written on it.