Another cyclist dies in London

[speedking31]

saaby93 said:

Outcome of the court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-360751...

Is there any mileage in asking everyone to hang back behind trucks buses or even cars??
Just in case?

What if the cyclist arrives first?

[saaby93]

speedking31 said:

What if the cyclist arrives first?

Not sure arrives where, but the second half my post looks and is out of place with the first
I should have used two posts

[swisstoni]

saaby93 said:

speedking31 said:

What if the cyclist arrives first?

Not sure arrives where, but the second half my post looks and is out of place with the first
I should have used two posts

I'm assuming this means when the cyclist is already waiting at the lights or junction when the truck or whatever gets there. In that situation IMHO, the vehicle driver should hang back slightly so as to keep the cyclist in view.

[Laurel Green]

A female cyclist has become the first cyclist to die on the streets of London this year after being hit by a lorry in South East London. The accident happened at the junction of St James's Road and Lansdowne Road in Croydon.

[saaby93]

Laurel Green said:

A female cyclist has become the first cyclist to die on the streets of London this year after being hit by a lorry in South East London. The accident happened at the junction of St James's Road and Lansdowne Road in Croydon.

says after colliding with lorry here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-363631...
outcome the same

Pile of police cars too

[anonymous-user]

Laurel Green said:

A female cyclist has become the first cyclist to die on the streets of London this year after being hit by a lorry in South East London. The accident happened at the junction of St James's Road and Lansdowne Road in Croydon.

Updated article in today's Standard,

"The driver of the lorry was later arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and failing to stop at the scene.

The lorry driver was taken to a south London police station where he remains in custody."

[SonicShadow]

fangio said:

giantdefy said:

fangio said:

The inventor of leds should have been drowned at birth.

Posted from you led screened computer or you led screened phone?

Just seen this.
No, LCD.

Almost certainly going to be LED backlit these days though.

[Vipers]

I like the "South East London" bit.

I was born and brought up in Thornton Heath, that and Croydon was in Surrey then.

So it now "Croydon, South East London, Surrey"?

[ZX10R NIN]

Didn't you know that when something bad happens it becomes South East London when it's good then it becomes Croydon Surrey.

[saaby93]

djstevec said:

Laurel Green said:

A female cyclist has become the first cyclist to die on the streets of London this year after being hit by a lorry in South East London. The accident happened at the junction of St James's Road and Lansdowne Road in Croydon.

Updated article in today's Standard,

"The driver of the lorry was later arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and failing to stop at the scene.

The lorry driver was taken to a south London police station where he remains in custody."

Google for cyclist careless driving brings up a few. It means a jury decides whether it was careless or normal behaviour. This case cropped up too
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cyclist...
It's not uphill wotsit?

[baldy1926]

It would be fairly normal to arrest the driver.
It gets him in the system an initial interview can be done and he can be given a long bail date for further enquiries

[fangio]

SonicShadow said:

Almost certainly going to be LED backlit these days though.

No, my laptop is pre-led!

[AyBee]

anonymous said:

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Wonder whether the bad weather has kept the novice cyclists off the roads so far this year?

[Sea Demon]

Cyclists in London will never be happy - they have a massive dedicated cycle super highway yet still cant wait their turn at the lights in the cycle lane, either just ride through it or hop on over the kerb and go through the lights with cars/lorries & if they turn red, jump them too - nothing will change.

Its not all cyclists, just a small minority - they can only help themselves.

Riding in a straight line would help too.

[Shakermaker]

Sea Demon said:

Cyclists in London will never be happy - they have a massive dedicated cycle super highway yet still cant wait their turn at the lights in the cycle lane, either just ride through it or hop on over the kerb and go through the lights with cars/lorries & if they turn red, jump them too - nothing will change.

Its not all cyclists, just a small minority - they can only help themselves.

Riding in a straight line would help too.

super expensive bikes are now the replacement for the Porsches and BMWs that all the stockbrokers were buying in the 80s..

Nowadays its all about who has bought the most expensive bike possible to show off to all their stockbroker mates and they then ride their bikes the same way a lot of them would have driven the cars if they were around 30 years ago, with the same regard for the rules of the road and everyone else as before.

Of course, this is "not all stockbrokers" either but the rise in popularity of expensive bikes for the sake of being expensive is telling.

[saaby93]

Sea Demon said:

Cyclists in London will never be happy - they have a massive dedicated cycle super highway yet still cant wait their turn at the lights in the cycle lane, either just ride through it or hop on over the kerb and go through the lights with cars/lorries & if they turn red, jump them too - nothing will change.

Its not all cyclists, just a small minority - they can only help themselves.

Riding in a straight line would help too.

We don't know what happened in this case

[Vipers]

saaby93 said:

Sea Demon said:

Cyclists in London will never be happy - they have a massive dedicated cycle super highway yet still cant wait their turn at the lights in the cycle lane, either just ride through it or hop on over the kerb and go through the lights with cars/lorries & if they turn red, jump them too - nothing will change.

Its not all cyclists, just a small minority - they can only help themselves.

Riding in a straight line would help too.

We don't know what happened in this case

Your right, but don't forget motorists are just bad as some cyclists, just watch the dash cam thread.

[aclivity]

saaby93 said:

Google for cyclist careless driving brings up a few. It means a jury decides whether it was careless or normal behaviour. This case cropped up too
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cyclist...
It's not uphill wotsit?

It was Martin Porter. Known as the cycling silk.

[funinhounslow]

Sea Demon said:

Cyclists in London will never be happy - they have a massive dedicated cycle super highway yet still cant wait their turn at the lights in the cycle lane, either just ride through it or hop on over the kerb and go through the lights with cars/lorries & if they turn red, jump them too - nothing will change.

Its not all cyclists, just a small minority - they can only help themselves.

Riding in a straight line would help too.

But putting cycle lanes in the gutter means cyclists have to take action to avoid drains, manhole covers and the general detritus that accumulates at the edges of the roads. If I avoid a pothole and get in the way of a car, then by definition that car was too close.

Here is a picture of where yesterday's fatality occurred. "Super highway" it isn't - in fact you will see the bike lane peters out just where it is needed most.

[saaby93]

funinhounslow said:

Here is a picture of where yesterday's fatality occurred. "Super highway" it isn't - in fact you will see the bike lane peters out just where it is needed most.

It's not a full bike lane it's an advisory lane - see it's dashed Do you have a closer view of the road markings where it pops out?
The road layout could be implicated in this one

Edited by saaby93 on Wednesday 25th May 17:10