Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

[Boosted LS1]

^ That sums up what I've been hearing for years. The EU has a lot to answer.

[Finlandia]

And another blast in Malmo tonight, also not to forget the handgrenade attack in Gothenburg last night.

[dudleybloke]

https://youtu.be/PwlRp8n_eok

[AreOut]

cultural appropriation

[rovermorris999]

Celebrate the diversity. Isn't that what we're told?

[jjlynn27]

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

[Mothersruin]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

No - the most murderous countries are where the immigrants are coming from.

[Jockman]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

Love you long time

[jjlynn27]

Mothersruin said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

No - the most murderous countries are where the immigrants are coming from.

Top 25 Murder Rates By Country
Rank Country Murder Rate (Per 100,000 Inhabitants)
1 Honduras 91.6
2 El Salvador 69.2
3 Jamaica 52.2
4 Venezuela 45.1
5 Belize 41.4
6 Guatemala 38.5
7 Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
8 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
9 Colombia 33.4
10 South Africa 31.1

Damn them Belizeans, coming here and bringing their murders with them.

[Hayek]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

The article I read from just a few posts above comes from The Times.

Edited by Hayek on Monday 22 January 10:58

[jjlynn27]

Jockman said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

Love you long time

[Hayek]

jjlynn27 said:

Mothersruin said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

No - the most murderous countries are where the immigrants are coming from.

Top 25 Murder Rates By Country
Rank Country Murder Rate (Per 100,000 Inhabitants)
1 Honduras 91.6
2 El Salvador 69.2
3 Jamaica 52.2
4 Venezuela 45.1
5 Belize 41.4
6 Guatemala 38.5
7 Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
8 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
9 Colombia 33.4
10 South Africa 31.1

Damn them Belizeans, coming here and bringing their murders with them.

Who collects the statistics in Afghanistan/Somalia/Libya etc etc...?

[Jazzy Jag]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

So everything in Sweden is fine, is it?

What will it take to get you to wake up and smell the coffee?

[mx5nut]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

They so desperately want it to be true. You get a feeling of genuine sadness when they are proved wrong.

That quickly turns to anger as they try to twist half truths and massage stats to support their anti immigration rhetoric.

[Hayek]

mx5nut said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

They so desperately want it to be true. You get a feeling of genuine sadness when they are proved wrong.

That quickly turns to anger as they try to twist half truths and massage stats to support their anti immigration rhetoric.

There's a Times link just above.

[Mothersruin]

jjlynn27 said:

Mothersruin said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

No - the most murderous countries are where the immigrants are coming from.

Top 25 Murder Rates By Country
Rank Country Murder Rate (Per 100,000 Inhabitants)
1 Honduras 91.6
2 El Salvador 69.2
3 Jamaica 52.2
4 Venezuela 45.1
5 Belize 41.4
6 Guatemala 38.5
7 Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
8 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
9 Colombia 33.4
10 South Africa 31.1

Damn them Belizeans, coming here and bringing their murders with them.

I found a similar list that roughly tallies with yours - it also shows that much of the immigranty type countries - Africa and Middle East for example, are up there too just not the top ten.

But I have to ask why are you dismissing the factual content of the crime rates in Sweden? Do you deny there's a problem? What's your angle?

You are right to defend bigotry and racism where it exists but that's not what's being discussed here - in fact that's not the issue at all here.

[jjlynn27]

Hayek said:

There's a Times link just above.

That Times link tries to hide the true picture, they say that Sweden is one of the safest countries in the world. That can't be right.
Luckily, we have true press, with exact picture what's happening;

https://www.infowars.com/sweden-hires-knife-fighti...

[Escapegoat]

Hayek said:

jjlynn27 said:

Mothersruin said:

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

No - the most murderous countries are where the immigrants are coming from.

Top 25 Murder Rates By Country
Rank Country Murder Rate (Per 100,000 Inhabitants)
1 Honduras 91.6
2 El Salvador 69.2
3 Jamaica 52.2
4 Venezuela 45.1
5 Belize 41.4
6 Guatemala 38.5
7 Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
8 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
9 Colombia 33.4
10 South Africa 31.1

Damn them Belizeans, coming here and bringing their murders with them.

Who collects the statistics in Afghanistan/Somalia/Libya etc etc...?

Not sure, but I don't think Mothersruin does it.

[Finlandia]

jjlynn27 said:

Reading this thread, you'd get the picture that Sweden is the most murderous country in the world. Then you realize that it's mostly posts by wanna-be right-wing nutjobs, getting their information from Infowars.

https://www.svd.se/svenska-attacker-med-granater-sticker-ut-i-varlden

Användandet av handgranater bland kriminella i Sverige saknar motstycke i världen bland länder som inte är i krig. Det skriver polisen till regeringen i en delrapport som SvD tagit del av

Google translate:
The use of hand grenades among criminals in Sweden is unprecedented among countries that are not in war. The police writes in a report to the government that SvD has taken part of.


SvD, Svenska Dagbladet:
Format: Tabloid
First issue date: December 18, 1884
Political alignment: Independent Moderate (liberal conservative)


Not really right-wing nutjob wannabees, or infowars.

[mx5nut]

Mothersruin said:

But I have to ask why are you dismissing the factual content of the crime rates in Sweden? Do you deny there's a problem? What's your angle?

It's difficult to take those who claim there is seriously when they are so happy to twist, for example, the sexual assault stats (because they know that'll get the best emotional response from people) to suit their anti immigrant agenda.

If they were happy to let facts speak for themselves, we could be having a much more productive conversation.

We can infer that the reality does not fit the anti foreigner narrative well enough if they need to make things up.