Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?
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Finlandia said:
BrabusMog said:
I genuinely would still prefer to raise a family in Sweden than the UK.
Surely that depends on where in Sweden and where in the UK? Finlandia said:
Surely that depends on where in Sweden and where in the UK?
I don't think it is an easy comparison. If I look where I grew up compared to where I live in Sweden, I think I would prefer my children (if we ever have any) to grow up where I did. Gothenburg is turning a bit in to the wild west at the moment and the great outdoors is not as good as I thought it could be here, that said things like childcare and parental leave etc do make it pretty good. Stevanos said:
I don't think it is an easy comparison. If I look where I grew up compared to where I live in Sweden, I think I would prefer my children (if we ever have any) to grow up where I did. Gothenburg is turning a bit in to the wild west at the moment and the great outdoors is not as good as I thought it could be here, that said things like childcare and parental leave etc do make it pretty good.
Whereabouts do you live in Sweden and where did you grow up in the UK?Edited by BrabusMog on Sunday 31st May 16:05
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
Finlandia said:
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
We hear a lot about the issues caused by recent immigrants and the effect on society, crime and culture in larger towns, and tend to think of the Swedes as a peaceable, civilised, cultured and, in some ways traditional people, but how much of the problems you list and the increasing crime etc. (that seem to be transforming Sweden really quickly) are by the established native Swedes? For example, criminal gangs reflecting and benefitting from a decline in law and order and standards, or right wing groups and so on. In other words, can they blame everything on the newcomers or are they on the downward slope too?Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
Finlandia said:
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
West London seems rather nice compared to that.Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
NicD said:
Finlandia said:
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
West London seems rather nice compared to that.Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
Finlandia said:
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
You may just be the biggest doom monger I have ever seen on Pistonheads Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
LastLight said:
We hear a lot about the issues caused by recent immigrants and the effect on society, crime and culture in larger towns, and tend to think of the Swedes as a peaceable, civilised, cultured and, in some ways traditional people, but how much of the problems you list and the increasing crime etc. (that seem to be transforming Sweden really quickly) are by the established native Swedes? For example, criminal gangs reflecting and benefitting from a decline in law and order and standards, or right wing groups and so on. In other words, can they blame everything on the newcomers or are they on the downward slope too?
There are many issues, one of them is that half the population has to work their arses off to support the other half. The ones working and paying the highest taxes in the world are getting sick of it, and the ones getting hand outs want more for nothing.Another issue is the gangsta culture, Hells Angels, Bandidos, Original Gangsters, all have their support gangs and they fight in the open, the more visible the better, like in Gothenburg, then you have the white power Nazi fractions fighting the leftie KGB wannabe "police" who are anti fascists and anti capitalists. You have the militant religious groups who mainly seem to attack Jews (Malmö is known for this), then there are various smaller gangs in suburbs that are mainly native Swedes with a non European background (these are the ones burning cars), then of course you have normal thieves and burglars.
No short answer to your question really, but, importing IS warriors doesn't help, that's for sure.
NicD said:
BrabusMog said:
It's nowhere near as cut and dry as that. There are certain areas in towns you wouldn't go to in Sweden. Just like you wouldn't go to Lewisham for a family day out... It's all relative.
I know, was tongue in cheek, and West London is a nicer part. I didnt glean that from the initial post. SW London is an even nicer part 
Axionknight said:
Finlandia said:
Every town in Sweden has their own problems, Gothenburg is like a shooting range, Malmö is the bomb capital of Europe, Västerås is the car burning Mecka, Stockholm and surroundings are riot zones, and what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
You may just be the biggest doom monger I have ever seen on Pistonheads Infrastructure, schools, healthcare are all falling to pieces, what is being done to solve the issues, nothing.
Well, actually, there are tax raises coming our way...
Looket said:
IainT said:
Really? Is this just the main cities because hose prices outside of that are incredibly low!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-10/swedish-housing-surges-to-unsafe-value-as-debt-soarsLast year apartment prices across the country increased by 13%, houses by 12%.
For more statistics if you're so inclined: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&...
I do like some of the translations.
Some more news then, remember those riots that have been ongoing in the suburbs of Stockholm? They cost money to organise, so how do you get money then? Rob a pawnshop/bank (real banks are cashless, yes really)in a smaller town like Västerås.
Only, they got caught red handed after a dramatic car chase in central town, and here comes the funny part, in the arrest they are playing Swedish dansbandsmusik as a means to stop them communicating in their own language. The robbers have now reported the arrest for torture.
Go police
Only, they got caught red handed after a dramatic car chase in central town, and here comes the funny part, in the arrest they are playing Swedish dansbandsmusik as a means to stop them communicating in their own language. The robbers have now reported the arrest for torture.
Go police
Finlandia said:
in the arrest they are playing Swedish dansbandsmusik as a means to stop them communicating in their own language. The robbers have now reported the arrest for torture.
Go police
That is just a cruel and unusual punishment, water boarding is one thing. Swedish dansbandmusik is a whole other world of cruelty.Go police
This man knows what the deal is: http://swedenreport.org/2015/06/02/goodbye-sweden/
I'm glad to announce that I too am off in a couple of months. It took me less than two years to reach the point of f
k this. I'll be living below the poverty line for a while as I try to get my business off the ground in the UK. But it'll be worth it.
Goodbye Sweden.
I'm glad to announce that I too am off in a couple of months. It took me less than two years to reach the point of f
k this. I'll be living below the poverty line for a while as I try to get my business off the ground in the UK. But it'll be worth it. Goodbye Sweden.
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