Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?
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As terrorism and gang violence has been rather quiet this week I thought I'd give you a snapshot of what else is making today's news in Sweden:
Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
Covid-19: For the first time, Sweden has the highest rate of newly confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the entire European Union.
The latest 14-day statistics from the European Centre for Disease Control has Sweden on 577 cases per 100,000 people.
Swedish surveillance law breaches human rights, European court rules: Surveillance by the Swedish state is not being carried out in a way that respects people's privacy, says the European Court of Human Rights. The Centre for Justice is the NGO that has taken this case all the way to the European court.
Bird Flu: Swedish eggs - particularly free-range, organic ones - are becoming more scarce on supermarket shelves.
That's because avian influenza, known as bird flu, has ravaged the industry since January and eliminated 20 percent of Swedish egg production which should return to normal in 2022.
Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
Covid-19: For the first time, Sweden has the highest rate of newly confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the entire European Union.
The latest 14-day statistics from the European Centre for Disease Control has Sweden on 577 cases per 100,000 people.
Swedish surveillance law breaches human rights, European court rules: Surveillance by the Swedish state is not being carried out in a way that respects people's privacy, says the European Court of Human Rights. The Centre for Justice is the NGO that has taken this case all the way to the European court.
Bird Flu: Swedish eggs - particularly free-range, organic ones - are becoming more scarce on supermarket shelves.
That's because avian influenza, known as bird flu, has ravaged the industry since January and eliminated 20 percent of Swedish egg production which should return to normal in 2022.
Even the Guardian is now reporting on Sweden’s problems..
“leaping from one of the lowest rates of gun violence on the continent to one of the highest in less than a decade”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/fata...
Must be quite disheartening for the Swede’s leading the charts of rape and gun crime. Quite some turn around for the once peaceful Nordic country.
“leaping from one of the lowest rates of gun violence on the continent to one of the highest in less than a decade”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/fata...
Must be quite disheartening for the Swede’s leading the charts of rape and gun crime. Quite some turn around for the once peaceful Nordic country.
Lagom said:
As terrorism and gang violence has been rather quiet this week I thought I'd give you a snapshot of what else is making today's news in Sweden:
Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
Not quite true...Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
The study compares Sweden to 22 European countries, not all of Europe's 48 countries.
Canute said:
Lagom said:
As terrorism and gang violence has been rather quiet this week I thought I'd give you a snapshot of what else is making today's news in Sweden:
Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
Not quite true...Sweden tops list comparing deadly shootings in Europe: A new report from the Swedish Crime Prevention Council, Brå, has found that Sweden is at the highest level in Europe when it comes to lethal firearm violence. The report states that in the early 2000s Sweden was at the bottom when it came to lethal shootings in Europe, but since 2018 it has ranked at the top. 8 out of 10 shootings take place at the criminal level, linked to drug trafficking and criminal groups.
The study compares Sweden to 22 European countries, not all of Europe's 48 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
Randy Winkman said:
And the way of recording rape numbers is very different from most other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
People like to roll out that Wikii chestnut, however it doesn't take away from the fact that between 2019-2020 reported rapes increased overall by 9%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
Compared with 2019, the reported rape crimes against women and girls had increased by 9%. The reported rape crimes against men and boys had also increased, by 4%.
Compared with 2011, the reported rapes had increased by 43%. Reported rapes against women / girls had increased by 41%, while reported rapes against men / boys had increased by 78%.
Of the reported rape crimes in 2020, 46% consisted of rapes of children (0–17 years), which meant an increase of 21% compared to 2019, and an increase of 44% compared to 2011.
The number of reported rapes against children aged 15–17 increased 19% compared with 2019. The reported rapes against girls aged 15–17 increased by 18%, while the reported rapes against boys aged 15–17 years increased by 49%.
Lagom said:
Randy Winkman said:
And the way of recording rape numbers is very different from most other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
People like to roll out that Wikii chestnut, however it doesn't take away from the fact that between 2019-2020 reported rapes increased overall by 9%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
Compared with 2019, the reported rape crimes against women and girls had increased by 9%. The reported rape crimes against men and boys had also increased, by 4%.
Compared with 2011, the reported rapes had increased by 43%. Reported rapes against women / girls had increased by 41%, while reported rapes against men / boys had increased by 78%.
Of the reported rape crimes in 2020, 46% consisted of rapes of children (0–17 years), which meant an increase of 21% compared to 2019, and an increase of 44% compared to 2011.
The number of reported rapes against children aged 15–17 increased 19% compared with 2019. The reported rapes against girls aged 15–17 increased by 18%, while the reported rapes against boys aged 15–17 years increased by 49%.
dudleybloke said:
Easy to compare number of bombs though.
2021 could be the first in a while where the total might come in under 200 explosions, compared to the 250+ of the previous years. Although I honestly think people have stopped counting. BTW, we are currently recruiting for our bomb disposal teams if anyone is interested.
https://polisen.se/om-polisen/lediga-jobb/2021/maj...
Randy Winkman said:
And the way of recording rape numbers is very different from most other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
No different from the U.K. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#:~:te...
Once an act is reported as rape it stays on the stats even if no crime can be proven. Second, if one person goes to the police and says they have been raped lots of times by the same other person (eg their partner) it goes on the books as the total number of acts rather than as one crime.
FiF said:
To be honest Lagom when I see one of your new posts pop up on this thread my heart usually sinks a little. Frankly glad no longer in that mix, who needs to be dealing with what are effectively attempts at no go areas.
It is indeed very sobering and very much under the radar My wife often travels to Sweden for work, both Stockholm and Malmö
The view, which is portrayed is of the progressive inclusive safe nirvana
However it is good that there are those that will highlight the reality
Stefan Löfven became the first Swedish Prime Minister to lose a no-confidence vote today, after the Left Party said it had lost confidence in the PM - tipping the majority of parliament against him and his government.
With 181 votes backing the motion, Löfven now has a week to decide on whether to call an extra election or resign and let the speaker negotiate to try can present a new government.
With 181 votes backing the motion, Löfven now has a week to decide on whether to call an extra election or resign and let the speaker negotiate to try can present a new government.
Lagom said:
Stefan Löfven became the first Swedish Prime Minister to lose a no-confidence vote today, after the Left Party said it had lost confidence in the PM - tipping the majority of parliament against him and his government.
With 181 votes backing the motion, Löfven now has a week to decide on whether to call an extra election or resign and let the speaker negotiate to try can present a new government.
Not left-wing enough to keep the Left Party happy. I'm not surprised though when you consider the issue (rental laws) that was in question. With 181 votes backing the motion, Löfven now has a week to decide on whether to call an extra election or resign and let the speaker negotiate to try can present a new government.
Does this thread highlight the fallacy of the left's Utopian narrative of the "multicultural society" ?
I've struggled to understand what "multiculturalism" is all about because it surely doesn't result in a harmonised happy going society that combines different cultures in to a single multi-culture 'blend'.
From another angle it equally doesn't seem to create a harmonised happy going society based up on numerous separated individual cultures attempting to live in the same spaces under a national rule of law set by the established 'native' culture.
Sweden is showing that within one generation how the whole narrative of "multiculturalism" takes effect. From what was more or less a mono-culture living within its traditions, which has quickly turned in to a society that is fragmented by different cultures that simply do not mix or integrate. But rather form their own ghettos and bring with it a crime wave harms all within its society.
I've struggled to understand what "multiculturalism" is all about because it surely doesn't result in a harmonised happy going society that combines different cultures in to a single multi-culture 'blend'.
From another angle it equally doesn't seem to create a harmonised happy going society based up on numerous separated individual cultures attempting to live in the same spaces under a national rule of law set by the established 'native' culture.
Sweden is showing that within one generation how the whole narrative of "multiculturalism" takes effect. From what was more or less a mono-culture living within its traditions, which has quickly turned in to a society that is fragmented by different cultures that simply do not mix or integrate. But rather form their own ghettos and bring with it a crime wave harms all within its society.
GroundZero said:
Sweden is showing that within one generation how the whole narrative of "multiculturalism" takes effect. From what was more or less a mono-culture living within its traditions, which has quickly turned in to a society that is fragmented by different cultures that simply do not mix or integrate. But rather form their own ghettos and bring with it a crime wave harms all within its society.
I think that's a bit OTT really, I live close to Gothenburg and just don't see things being like that. It's much the same as any other city, I would feel more anxious wondering around large swathes of London than just about any part of these Swedish cities. Canute said:
I think that's a bit OTT really, I live close to Gothenburg and just don't see things being like that. It's much the same as any other city, I would feel more anxious wondering around large swathes of London than just about any part of these Swedish cities.
I think many cities are in a similar position these days. Knife crime is common place and I have a feeling that unreported crime (through lack of police or justice system resolution) has risen significantly. So the figures are likely not showing much of the picture.Apologies for the OTT comments, they were aimed to continue to generate debate on the subject.
Basically I've never understood the benefits of mass importing bad aspects of culture from different parts of the world where the only result is harm to the native culture and society.
This is not to say that immigration should be banned or any extreme as that, just that immigration should always be done on an economic need and on a carefully regulated balance with the native society.
I just don't think this has been the case with many European countries, including the UK, which has resulted in a lot of tension, crime and division within society.
Lagom said:
dudleybloke said:
Easy to compare number of bombs though.
2021 could be the first in a while where the total might come in under 200 explosions, compared to the 250+ of the previous years. Although I honestly think people have stopped counting. BTW, we are currently recruiting for our bomb disposal teams if anyone is interested.
https://polisen.se/om-polisen/lediga-jobb/2021/maj...
Spectator: Sweden’s gun crime epidemic is spiralling out of control
The country's spate of bombings has no equivalent in the Western world
WRITTEN BY Paulina Neuding
Paulina Neuding is a Swedish journalist who writes for Svenska Dagbladet.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-s-the-cau...
The country's spate of bombings has no equivalent in the Western world
WRITTEN BY Paulina Neuding
Paulina Neuding is a Swedish journalist who writes for Svenska Dagbladet.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-s-the-cau...
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